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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    So this thread is just a European starting a thread to trash the United States.
    Right..
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I do lots of things, jogging is ONLY one of them.
    Everyone is waiting. What ya got, Mr. Be the change?

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypersonic View Post
    Didn't answer my question. Aside from being well informed, how are you utilizing your knowledge in your life. That is, how are you in your part making a difference and practicing what you preach? I mean, you calling society pathetic and the masses sheep does nothing for me on an individual basis nor is it really helping all of us here so I ask, with your well found knowledge what are you doing to change that little part of society you live in outside the forum?

    Sorry it's a loaded question.
    I try many things.

    I avoid eating tortured animals as mentioned earlier. (only eat well treated ones)
    I stay healthy to avoid being a drain on society. (eat ethical and healthy food, live healthy, do healthy activities)
    I try to help people every day.
    I stay informed (as mentioned).
    I minimise my ecological footprint (use as little power as possible, sort trash, I don't drive. etc)
    I donate to the needy.
    I volunteer help.
    I don't lie, don't misbehave, don't steal. Nothing like that. I don't manipulate or deceive. etc etc.

    Is that enough? I am sure I can come up with more if you want, but they pretty much touch my whole lifestyle and everything that I am trying to do in general. And I am still young.


    What about you?
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I try many things.

    I avoid eating tortured animals as mentioned earlier. (only eat well treated ones)
    I stay healthy to avoid being a drain on society. (eat ethical and healthy food, live healthy, do healthy activities)
    I try to help people every day.
    I stay informed (as mentioned).
    I minimise my ecological footprint (use as little power as possible, sort trash, I don't drive. etc)
    I donate to the needy.
    I volunteer help.
    I don't lie, don't misbehave, don't steal. Nothing like that. I don't manipulate or deceive. etc etc.

    Is that enough? I am sure I can come up with more if you want, but they pretty much touch my whole lifestyle and everything that I am trying to do in general. And I am still young.


    What about you?
    "none of the above"
    or
    Good for you, Max...its a privilege being in the company with such a superior man.....or should I say child.......
    I am being facetious and sarcastic.....

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Right..
    Of that, I'd NOT be proud.
    And, in being so negative, you are "turning off " people..
    I do this as well....not good..

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Right..
    The heck is your problem! Again, where from Western Europe are you from?
    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
    The Republic of Dardania is the proper name for: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...ification.html

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    I don't think ecofarm is the only one contributing. Although I'm no serviceman (hats off to eco for his services for this nation) what I can only say for myself is I received an undergraduate degree from CSUDH (California State University Dominguez Hills) receiving my bachelors degree in both Psychology (emphasis on Neuropsychology) and Philosophy (Yes I double majored and was able to graduate in 3 years!). I didn't learn true charity work until I pledged in Omega Psi Phi Mu Zeta Chapter a general info of my fraternity can be seen here: The Official Website of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity

    Not only did we work in soup kitchens we also worked with other fraternities in helping out victims of hurricane katrina by some of us flying out there to help with the relief efforts. We are constantly working with the homeless and also donate to other reputable charities that assist people who are going through foreclosures. I've never been in the military but the way our fraternity is ran it might as well be paramilitary. With hardwork and a lot of research in undergraduate studies I applied, and was accepted into the Brain and Cognitive Science program at the University of Southern California where I'm currently pursuing doctoral studies. Although I've been in the program since 2009 and have received my masters, I'm continuing my schooling. Although it is tedious with me working full time it is tedious hard work.

    Speaking of work I work at a hospital (which I will leave undisclosed for purposes of privacy) in L.A where I am a discharge planner, which is a job I am loving so far as I am assisting many social workers and Case Managers in patient placement in various facilities throughout L.A county. Although I'm not the main factor, my personal involvement with patient care allows me to get an idea of various patients conditions we call, psychosocial. I personally think in my life in doing this job I've made a difference in the lives of people, whether it's a smile, getting them a cup of water, or upon evaluating them, listen to their trials and how they've ended up being in patient. A lot of patients I see have degenerative brain diseases where they eventually die before they could be transferred to palliative care.

    I've seen dead bodies, babies, GSW's (Gun Shot Wounds), hurt families, people in pain, people suffering from suicidal ideation you name it, I've seen it. Which is why a lot of times when I narrate a perspective of mine, I try to include some of my own personal experiences. What I've learned in working in the medical field is that when it comes to distress whether biological, emotional or psychological we human beings are all the same. I also think while working in the medical field, the smallest act of kindness goes a long way. Some people who may wait a year or two, have come back and thanked me for my assistance and I may not remember who they are as I see it as just me doing my job.

    I've held the hand of a dying patient who was afraid to die alone because she felt her family didn't love her, second to losing my mother at age 19 the was one of the hardest things I had to do, but I surely believe on a microcosmic scale, we can make a small difference in the society we are in. Of course on a grand scale it is difficult but I believe if we are involved in helping with change I think the small actions we do can make a rippling effect on society.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I try many things.

    I avoid eating tortured animals as mentioned earlier. (only eat well treated ones)
    I stay healthy to avoid being a drain on society. (eat ethical and healthy food, live healthy, do healthy activities)
    I try to help people every day.
    I stay informed (as mentioned).
    I minimise my ecological footprint (use as little power as possible, sort trash, I don't drive. etc)
    I donate to the needy.
    I volunteer help.
    I don't lie, don't misbehave, don't steal. Nothing like that. I don't manipulate or deceive. etc etc.

    Is that enough? I am sure I can come up with more if you want, but they pretty much touch my whole lifestyle and everything that I am trying to do in general. And I am still young.


    What about you?
    “Every man takes the limits of his own field of vision for the limits of the world.”

    -Arthur Schopenhauer

    Regarding the eating healthy part in the bold, as a person in the medical field I applaud you for your effort in staying fit and healthy however, from one human being to another, regardless whether you eat healthy at some point you will occupy a hospital bed. Someday you will need medical assistance which will drain the resources of the hospital. Your healthy lifestyle may make this less possible but eventually your human frailty will catch up and you will be one of the needy.
    Last edited by Hypersonic; 10-02-13 at 04:11 AM.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Do you agree with the statement (above)?

    What a ridiculous world, full of ridiculous countries, and their naive peoples.


    Every single person on this planet is ready to embrace a world society that makes sense. A society where we all get along and cooperate, a society where no one starves, where no one suffers. Everyone is ready to live in and contribute to a society where people do not live under horrific conditions. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where we all cooperate for a better world. Everyone is ready to embrace a society which is well organised and stable with a model that doesn't look like its made by monkeys. Everyone is ready for a society without all the lies, the deceit, manipulation and corruption. Everyone is ready to embrace a free society rather than be jailed and restricted by their governments. Everyone is ready to be free and open their mind instead of being narrow minded and controlled. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where everyone else is good and kind. Everyone is ready to live on a clean and wonderful planet. Everyone is ready to embrace useful change. Everyone wants quality. Everyone is ready for a fair economic system that make sense. Everyone wants everyone else to smile. Everyone wants a world of joy. Everyone wants to be safe. Everyone wants to experience fantastic and great things. Everyone wants to breathe clean air, everyone wants to drink pure water, everyone wants to eat delicious food. We all want to be happy. Everyone wants to live on a planet where everyone else is happy. Everyone wants a planet where everyone have all these things. Everyone wants to have a just society.


    But no. We have a society full of corruption, our planet is turning into a horrible hole, we are ruining the only place we have. We fight wars AGAINST OURSELVES. We lie, we manipulate, we are cruel to each others. We live on deception. Everyone is trapped in a society with massive brainwashing, where they have no ability to think for themselves any longer. We let the governments take all power and leave only an illusion to the people. Our society look like its organised by monkeys and savages. People starve, die of thirst and suffer every single minute. Our society is completely unstable so we choose not to cooperate and rather work against each others. For anyone who is awake and not an idiot, our society doesnt make sense at all. We poison our own food, we pollute our drinking water and soil, we empty the oceans, we live in really ugly cities. The government is hugging us so hard that they are suffocating us. Our rights are taken away day by day. We only care about profit. Everything we buy is low quality junk. Most people either steal from others as a criminal act or as a legal job, most people think only of them self. Most people say cruel things to others and try to create disharmony since they have no harmony themselves. We all feel bad.

    So f*** the US, they are now the worst.
    ...and Europe, we are on the same slippery slope.

    We step on the shoulders of the poor and suffering, we abuse other nations, we wage wars against them and kill their families, we poison their minds with unsound logic, we pretend we have democracy and stand and step on freedom and choice. We do most of the above things. We suck actually. We are immoral bastards.

    So, aside from the crooks in the US and Europe, how is the rest of the world? A damn slave labour camp, and those who don't do that, they suffer and die every day, from starvation or thirst or just horrid general conditions.


    This is ONE planet. We are ALL responsible to look at ourselves as ONE people. If someone from outside looked at this place, YOU would be considered one of those idiots on a planet with such a pathetic civilisation.

    Personally I am deeply ashamed to be a human being, being part of such a pathetic civilisation among people who do such horrendous things. I feel deeply ashamed that we let the people suffer, starve and die when we can EASILY do something about it. I feel sorry for all the dumb-asses who believe we live in good and free societies. Its probably because you only have trash to compare with.


    Take your head out of the sand and vote.
    Yep. Most intelligent people would agree that world government would solve many of the whopper problems. What is difficult is agreeing on the toolkit for making the collective decisions. How much say would you want to give a voter in India or Malawi over your minimum wage or marriage contract?

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Yep. Most intelligent people would agree that world government would solve many of the whopper problems. What is difficult is agreeing on the toolkit for making the collective decisions. How much say would you want to give a voter in India or Malawi over your minimum wage or marriage contract?
    World government would make things worse.

    Look at the corruption we have already, in the various governments around the world (and in the UN, for that matter, which is as close to "world government" as we've gotten so far.

    Way I look at it, without the disagreements and such between governments, a world government would become the most corrupt government ever seen, given enough time.

    Or something like that.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

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