No, what I believe is that the world has actually improved, measurably and significantly so. There is room for more improvement. However, certain things (like deception) will never go away.You think our current pathetic civilisation is great or you have no hope in human kind to do any better than we are. Which is tragic and clearly an example of someone who have no faith in humanity.
So, that's a "no" on your having kids then.That is a result of their environment, not their human nature. It doesn't have to be that way. But usually kids are afraid of parents if they do something wrong, and are compelled to use a construction of our civilisation to get out of that, lying.
Parents constantly tell their kids not to lie. Success rate at eliminating lying? 0%. The will and ability to deceive is just a part of human nature, and you will not get people to behave the way you want them to behave if you don't understand human nature.
1) Monkeys are quite intelligent.Are you saying we are are stupid as monkeys? That we cannot do better? Thats a dark view on humanity that I do not share.
2) I'm saying that you cannot stop humans from lying. Nor have you suggested any plan to do so.
So they can be free, but only if they restrict their behavior per your personal preferences? That doesn't sound like "freedom" to me.Thats not up to me, its up to all of us. Personally, I want my kids to grow up in a free world where they can become anything that they want.
You're missing the point. I am not saying that there are definitive groups, in fact I stated that the criteria for group membership is flexible. I'm pointing out how human beings have an innate propensity to divide themselves up to "us and them." E.g. in the Robbers Cave experiment, a group of kids with highly similar backgrounds were divided into two groups. The counselors were able to quickly guide the kids into forming group identities, and pit the two groups against one another; they were equally successful at unifying the two groups. I.e. you can change the content of the groups, but you cannot wipe out the idea of "group membership" altogether.We are all us. We live on the same planet, there is no us and them.
This is almost certainly an evolutionary adaptation and a requirement for living in complex social groups. Chimpanzees, for example, also divide themselves up into troops, and within a troop they have complex subgroups -- e.g. they recognize families, they make alliances, they have a hierarchy based on competition, and so forth.
And how does this happen again? Especially since in such a world, a handful of brutes can easily take control of those who are busy hugging puppies.If everyone grew up in an open world where they have everything they need we would have far more social harmony. It is a place where everyone would automatically be the friend of everyone else, because it makes no sense not to be.
You might want to add The Selfish Gene to your reading list, as Dawkins discusses the idea of evolutionary survival strategies, and how it's rare that one tactic will work universally.
Yep.I wasnt trying to come up with practical examples. Are you asking for some?
There are about 6 billion people on the planet, who routinely divide themselves into groups and have genuine conflicts of interests. If you're going to say that it is easy to build a better world, then let's hear how it should be done.
Of course I do. Granted, my power is shared with around 300 million of my fellow citizens. But I can vote, I can advocate, I can discuss, I can protest, I can bring lawsuits, I can organize. If I am sufficiently motivated, I can join the political class.They own the system. You have no influence on that systems....
The problem is that you know nothing of my background, nothing about the political ideas I've been exposed to, and your only criteria is whether or not someone agrees with you.Did I say I was free? I live in the same system as you, and I am equally trapped by it. I am probably more open minded than you though, which makes me more free to understanding true freedom.
And yes, if you're going to say "you are a sheep," that implies that you are not -- and yet, there is (per your own stipulation) nothing different between you and I. So how did you become so enlightened?
The US is getting better about teaching kids the benefits of exercise and eating healthy, and there is a lot of discussion of it in the media. It's having a small effect.Jogging is not only benefitial to me, but also to our society. They never teach such things in school.
No one really knows what causes obesity, thus it is not a simple process to figure out why it's happening, or how to stop it.
That in general is an area where we definetely are pathetic. And with all the health problems, overweight and such of today it should be an area of high priority. Both sports science and practice, and nutritional science and food practice.
It's a shame that so many people leave school without the ability to cook food!
We certainly do not teach these important subject with the same rigour and professionality as the "prepare for work" subjects.
Schooling and education in general need huge improvements. Take computer science for example, its already a mature establishment in our society, but schools are lagging far behind when it comes to providing such education at an elementary level. There is a huge gap in competence and equipment compared to what we need.
Europe is illegally occupied by the US
Stop relying on the government to do everything. Take some personal responsibility.
Hillary Clinton ....It takes a community to rear a child....
Max, things are not as bad as you make them to be.....
And, its a delicate operation to change /improve things...I am good at pointing this out (easy part), but lousy at getting people to change....
Where do you stand ?