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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Money is how corruption is implemented these days, and the driving force for corruption in our society.
    And it's really not possible to know who is corrupt and who isn't until they demonstrate that, right? But when you have people who will vote for politicians regardless of their corruption and a congress who refuses to punish them harshly when they do break or skirt around laws, because they are concerned with their own interests, then what do you suggest realistically?

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    My guess would be young and idealistic. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's not realistic.

    Hey that rhymes! I'm a poet and I didn't know it.
    I sense a good deal of pessimism and bitterness. A hatred even, for ones fellow man.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Money is how corruption is implemented these days, and the driving force for corruption in our society.
    Money is an object, it cannot create or do anything. There has always been and always will be tools used for corruption. Getting rid of money does not get rid of corruption, that's stupid.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The right to liberty is a dream? That is kind of sad. No, it's actually depressing as hell.
    Yes, your suggestions are equal to anarchy. People would suffer in that situation too. The only way any of your suggestions would ever work would be if people were perfect and completely trustworthy, and we all know that is just not the case. This is the reason why law and order came to be to begin with. There are places in the world where there is no government or a very broken government with not much power over the people at all, such as Somalia.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Do you agree with the statement (above)?

    What a ridiculous world, full of ridiculous countries, and their naive peoples.


    Every single person on this planet is ready to embrace a world society that makes sense. A society where we all get along and cooperate, a society where no one starves, where no one suffers. Everyone is ready to live in and contribute to a society where people do not live under horrific conditions. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where we all cooperate for a better world. Everyone is ready to embrace a society which is well organised and stable with a model that doesn't look like its made by monkeys. Everyone is ready for a society without all the lies, the deceit, manipulation and corruption. Everyone is ready to embrace a free society rather than be jailed and restricted by their governments. Everyone is ready to be free and open their mind instead of being narrow minded and controlled. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where everyone else is good and kind. Everyone is ready to live on a clean and wonderful planet. Everyone is ready to embrace useful change. Everyone wants quality. Everyone is ready for a fair economic system that make sense. Everyone wants everyone else to smile. Everyone wants a world of joy. Everyone wants to be safe. Everyone wants to experience fantastic and great things. Everyone wants to breathe clean air, everyone wants to drink pure water, everyone wants to eat delicious food. We all want to be happy. Everyone wants to live on a planet where everyone else is happy. Everyone wants a planet where everyone have all these things. Everyone wants to have a just society.


    But no. We have a society full of corruption, our planet is turning into a horrible hole, we are ruining the only place we have. We fight wars AGAINST OURSELVES. We lie, we manipulate, we are cruel to each others. We live on deception. Everyone is trapped in a society with massive brainwashing, where they have no ability to think for themselves any longer. We let the governments take all power and leave only an illusion to the people. Our society look like its organised by monkeys and savages. People starve, die of thirst and suffer every single minute. Our society is completely unstable so we choose not to cooperate and rather work against each others. For anyone who is awake and not an idiot, our society doesnt make sense at all. We poison our own food, we pollute our drinking water and soil, we empty the oceans, we live in really ugly cities. The government is hugging us so hard that they are suffocating us. Our rights are taken away day by day. We only care about profit. Everything we buy is low quality junk. Most people either steal from others as a criminal act or as a legal job, most people think only of them self. Most people say cruel things to others and try to create disharmony since they have no harmony themselves. We all feel bad.

    So f*** the US, they are now the worst.
    ...and Europe, we are on the same slippery slope.

    We step on the shoulders of the poor and suffering, we abuse other nations, we wage wars against them and kill their families, we poison their minds with unsound logic, we pretend we have democracy and stand and step on freedom and choice. We do most of the above things. We suck actually. We are immoral bastards.

    So, aside from the crooks in the US and Europe, how is the rest of the world? A damn slave labour camp, and those who don't do that, they suffer and die every day, from starvation or thirst or just horrid general conditions.


    This is ONE planet. We are ALL responsible to look at ourselves as ONE people. If someone from outside looked at this place, YOU would be considered one of those idiots on a planet with such a pathetic civilisation.

    Personally I am deeply ashamed to be a human being, being part of such a pathetic civilisation among people who do such horrendous things. I feel deeply ashamed that we let the people suffer, starve and die when we can EASILY do something about it. I feel sorry for all the dumb-asses who believe we live in good and free societies. Its probably because you only have trash to compare with.


    Take your head out of the sand and vote.
    There's a reason why some people are called "Utopian Socialists". You want to take away all the natural negative consequences of bad behaviors and bad choices, and at the same time you expect that there won't be any bad behavior or bad choices made by virtue of the fact that there aren't any negative consequences.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, your suggestions are equal to anarchy. People would suffer in that situation too. The only way any of your suggestions would ever work would be if people were perfect and completely trustworthy, and we all know that is just not the case. This is the reason why law and order came to be to begin with. There are places in the world where there is no government or a very broken government with not much power over the people at all, such as Somalia.
    Nice post, but people should stop ripping on Somalia. It was liberated during the last 2 years and is doing much better.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So I'm guessing that liberals will never get universal healthcare. Oh wait, if things continue to go the way they are that is exactly what they will get. I guess dreams do come true.



    The Affordable Care Act is settled law per a U.S. Supreme Court decision.

    When will the G-nO-P ever wake up and accept reality?

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Nice post, but people should stop ripping on Somalia. It was liberated during the last 2 years and is doing much better.
    Just an example of what can and does happen. There are always going to be people who take advantage.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I sense a good deal of pessimism and bitterness. A hatred even, for ones fellow man.



    Anyone who sees the civilization which we all live in as pathetic has serious problems which won't be solved on this thread.

    I have no sympathy for this guy.

    There are some problems on this planet, but not everyone is responsible for those problems or has any power to do anything about them.
    Last edited by shrubnose; 10-01-13 at 10:17 AM.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Wel, its not about my dream. But you don't seem to pay any attention to what is written in here..

    Its about the collective dream and a collective good society, rather than a corrupt society fully controlled by bastards and common filth like is currently in our governments.
    Corruption is just a side effect of the problem. The problem can't be resolved since people are always going to be interested in oppressing and harming others. The problem with democracy is that it feeds into the weaknesses of people and does little to empower their strengths. The problem with democracy is rooted in people finding that they can use government towards their own ends usually at the expense of others. Just look at the ACA for example, the largest most talked about parts of the law are either involuntary servitude, forced commerce or using government to provide people individual services at others expense. If people want to actually get to a point where democracy works they have to stop pushing for government to fix their problems and focus more on rights and liberties. As it stands, we seem to be a part in a history where people don't want to be spied on and yet want government to keep them save at all times, don't want to be overly burden in taxes and yet want the government to provide them the basics in life, want liberty, but don't want it for their neighbor if they benefit from them losing it. Most people live in a constant state of contradiction and self denial.

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