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But since humans (or people, same thing) = society, you just agreed with me.Humans affect humans... not society.
But since humans (or people, same thing) = society, you just agreed with me.Humans affect humans... not society.
But since humans (or people, same thing) = society, you just agreed with me.
People = Society, and Society = People.
You cannot separate the two, or say that the influence involved is one-way.
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How is that meaningfully different than "sole leader"?
He has in mind a utopia of perfection based off of European liberalism... some Star Trek fantasy world where people have evolved away from greed, anger, desire, etc.
It is not.It's possible to accomplish.
The president of the US fits neither of those descriptions.This is what America is about these days. Forget the important things, lets get stuck in details and miss the big picture.
Sole leader = The only leader
Single leader = The top of the political leadership, the leader of all, the rules, the leadership symbol. The same as the sole leader, except there are ofcourse a few other leaders as well, but they are not that important.
So to say it easy, I am against ANY leaders. People shouldn't represent the single leader or any leader in government. The people should. But they are pretty much irrelevant in how society develops.
It's possible to accomplish.
Not as long as human's have greed and other such characteristics it won't be possible.... not even close.
It is possible if our society gets rid of the root of greed.
Humans are the root of greed.It is possible if our society gets rid of the root of greed.
Nah, you got it all wrong.
THE PEOPLE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INFLUENCE ON WHERE SOCIETY GOES!
(this is a slight exhaggeration, people do have a tiny influence, but it is so small its completely irrelevant)
Am I making my point clear now?
Your point is clear. It is clearly wrong, but it is clear.
Humans are the root of greed.
And how do you do that? It is born into us... ever watch two toddlers that want the same toy?
You establish a society where everyone have what they need and want. You give people the knowledge to see things clearly and to expand their knowledge and understanding exponentially from a very young age to the end of their days.
Math doesn't do that. We need a society of values, honor, honesty, integrity, traditions. If we do not have them math is nothing but a tool for destruction and randomness.
We had societies in the past, rooted in such values, and those did not come by themself, people learned those values from a very young age, and they were reinforced on them for much of their life.
I mean, our educational system is quite a failure in that regard. Most people graduate without any of those values, or maximum 1 or 2, and still those values are not very strong in them.
If you know what I mean...
Ps. What is our society rooted in?
There will always be humans who let greed, and other emotions/desires, rule their lives.I have higher views of people. I think there is a great force of corruption in our society, and it is not at all the majority of people.
Ever heard of something rotting at the core?
When we have unlimited resources were everyone can have a 50K diamond, a super yacht, a Ferrari and a billion dollar mansion you might get somewhere.
Until then you are living in a fantasy world buddy...
There will always be humans who let greed, and other emotions/desires, rule their lives.
Maybe those things are part of te problem. There is absolutely no actual value in a diamond except for cutting in industrial use.
I find it a huge problem in our society that someone has way too much whole others have nothing. I mean, most super rich people have money they will never ever use, and only a tiny bit of that could provide much happiness to a lot of desperate people. I mean, it wouldn't take much money to give people in overpopulated areas sex education and free condoms for example. I cannot say for sure, but I have a feeling that many of those pregnancies are not wanted. What I do know for sure it that they create a whole lot of problems.
As I see it, the capitalist model is completely broken and by definition dysfynctional and inherently unfair. Capitalism as oppose to free market and free trade brings only misery, and allows many people to get rich by making others poor. Even the US, a relatively rich country, is a perfect example of that.
For Europe it was highly profitable with colonialism, slavery, stealing of natural resources, killing and general stealing in Africa. Looking at it from the other side completely changes the perspective. How would Africa have been today if we had not crushed them? Personally I know far too little about middle age African society, but as far as I know it was far more developed than African society is today.
Maybe, but it does not have to be the majority.
A minority is enough, because the vast majority of humans tend to not give a ****.Maybe, but it does not have to be the majority.
You can say that those things are a part of the problem all you like... the problem is that people will want them. You truly just don't seem to get it.
As long as some people have things that others want but can't have you will have a problem.
As long as some people are in charge of others laying down the law that others don't like you will have a problem.
I can go on and on but I don't think that you will ever understand the innate failures of human behaviour.
But it is the majority... why do you think that people want better paying jobs, more beneifts, etc. It is greed.
Like I said, watch two toddlers try to play with one toy. Now imagine the toy is a Leer Jet.
A minority is enough, because the vast majority of humans tend to not give a ****.
Edit: However, I think you're too narrowly defining greed - Any form of "I want that" is greed. In a way, anyway.
I think most people just want to live a good life and have security. If they have that, then I think greed is no longer a topic.
But how many people have a good life and security today? Almost none, just the very rich. They know that they can survive and be comfortable the rest of their life without having to do anything. Yet they do something.
I think lowering that bar is possible, that most people in the west would be able to think the same, that they can survive and be compfortable the rest of their life without having to do anything. But then we would have to change the economic model to distribute work better, to avoid a group of people stealing the value of everyones labour, thus leaving the labourers having to labour more and not able to live comfortable, even though our society have plenty.
You see, we do produce enough for everyone to be secure and comfortable in our society, we just distribute it very poorly, so that no one is secure and compfortable unless they put in a lot of work. We organise our society in a very poor way. I mean, if everyone had the same as an example and everyone contributed equally, we could have everything we have to day with half the labour. If we focused more on what is important, and focused less on things we do not need, then I think everyone could get away with working a 10 hour week or less.
The greed we are seeing in general as a society is not the greed of our society, but the greed of the capitalist model.