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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Not really, no.

    EVERYONE wants to live in a good world.
    Not true, as i see it.
    Define good.....people..
    And you will have a million different definitions.
    The Amish "good" is different than mine; mine is different from yours; yours will be different from my Aunt Tizzy's....on and on...

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Not true, as i see it.
    Define good.....people..
    And you will have a million different definitions.
    The Amish "good" is different than mine; mine is different from yours; yours will be different from my Aunt Tizzy's....on and on...
    Exactly why liberty is so important to a world we'd like to live in.
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Nah, thats great.

    But you clearly have absolutely no idea what I am talking about so I don't know what you are doing in this thread then.

    Best of luck to you in this world. I never said anything about individuals. This is not about you, or any other single individuals.
    You started a thread or poll about this world is. You weren't specific, you were clear.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Judging by the way you live and think, you should have all that going on.

    Personally I have none of that going on, I just feel ashamed being a human being, living in such a civilisation.

    I feel even more ashamed when I am on this forum and seeing what people write here.
    This post is an example

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Your use of "everyone" is in almost all examples inaccurate. Sometimes wildly so.

    Not to mention many of those "everyone" statements contradict each other.


    You basically said: Humans suck. Everyone wants the world to be perfect (except, apparently humans, so not everyone?). Humans suck and don't want to live in a perfect world (thus, they are not part of everyone, again). **** the USA, they suck the most at sucking. You're all idiots. Go vote in the elections to elect more idiots that suck at being part of everyone because they're human.

    Do you have ANY FREAKING IDEA how INSANELY IDIOTIC you appear?


    Edit: Also, which race of space aliens are you part of, since you obviously cannot be human (since, again, humans suck and are not part of the perfect everyone).
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    What a ridiculous world, full of ridiculous countries, and their naive peoples.
    Or, you can recognize that the world is a much safer place today than it was just a few hundred years ago. People in the West have better medical care, abundant food, and fantastic communications options. For all the stick they get and the occasional failures, the UN has done a pretty good job at keeping wars from getting completely out of hand. You can travel around the world safely, and in good health; that was barely possible before the 20th Century.

    The world is far from perfect, and could use a lot of changes. But it's far, far better than you make it out to be. Don't blame the world for your pessimism.


    Every single person on this planet is ready to embrace a world society that makes sense.
    Uhm. Have you not read many of the posts on this web forum?!?


    A society where we all get along and cooperate... etc
    There will always be conflicts between groups, and competing interests. Someone somewhere is always going to starve. Deceit is a part of humanity, there is absolutely no way to eradicate it. Corruption can be tamped down, but not eliminated.

    A world without suffering and lies and corruption is not an imminent reality. That's a fantasy, and the claim that your paradise is achievable only makes it harder to improve the real world we all have to live in.

    I also recommend you read Steven Pinker's Better Angels of our Nature and/or Goldstein's Winning the War on War to get a bit of perspective.

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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Do you agree with the statement (above)?

    What a ridiculous world, full of ridiculous countries, and their naive peoples.


    Every single person on this planet is ready to embrace a world society that makes sense. A society where we all get along and cooperate, a society where no one starves, where no one suffers. Everyone is ready to live in and contribute to a society where people do not live under horrific conditions. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where we all cooperate for a better world. Everyone is ready to embrace a society which is well organised and stable with a model that doesn't look like its made by monkeys. Everyone is ready for a society without all the lies, the deceit, manipulation and corruption. Everyone is ready to embrace a free society rather than be jailed and restricted by their governments. Everyone is ready to be free and open their mind instead of being narrow minded and controlled. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where everyone else is good and kind. Everyone is ready to live on a clean and wonderful planet. Everyone is ready to embrace useful change. Everyone wants quality. Everyone is ready for a fair economic system that make sense. Everyone wants everyone else to smile. Everyone wants a world of joy. Everyone wants to be safe. Everyone wants to experience fantastic and great things. Everyone wants to breathe clean air, everyone wants to drink pure water, everyone wants to eat delicious food. We all want to be happy. Everyone wants to live on a planet where everyone else is happy. Everyone wants a planet where everyone have all these things. Everyone wants to have a just society.


    But no. We have a society full of corruption, our planet is turning into a horrible hole, we are ruining the only place we have. We fight wars AGAINST OURSELVES. We lie, we manipulate, we are cruel to each others. We live on deception. Everyone is trapped in a society with massive brainwashing, where they have no ability to think for themselves any longer. We let the governments take all power and leave only an illusion to the people. Our society look like its organised by monkeys and savages. People starve, die of thirst and suffer every single minute. Our society is completely unstable so we choose not to cooperate and rather work against each others. For anyone who is awake and not an idiot, our society doesnt make sense at all. We poison our own food, we pollute our drinking water and soil, we empty the oceans, we live in really ugly cities. The government is hugging us so hard that they are suffocating us. Our rights are taken away day by day. We only care about profit. Everything we buy is low quality junk. Most people either steal from others as a criminal act or as a legal job, most people think only of them self. Most people say cruel things to others and try to create disharmony since they have no harmony themselves. We all feel bad.

    So f*** the US, they are now the worst.
    ...and Europe, we are on the same slippery slope.

    We step on the shoulders of the poor and suffering, we abuse other nations, we wage wars against them and kill their families, we poison their minds with unsound logic, we pretend we have democracy and stand and step on freedom and choice. We do most of the above things. We suck actually. We are immoral bastards.

    So, aside from the crooks in the US and Europe, how is the rest of the world? A damn slave labour camp, and those who don't do that, they suffer and die every day, from starvation or thirst or just horrid general conditions.


    This is ONE planet. We are ALL responsible to look at ourselves as ONE people. If someone from outside looked at this place, YOU would be considered one of those idiots on a planet with such a pathetic civilisation.

    Personally I am deeply ashamed to be a human being, being part of such a pathetic civilisation among people who do such horrendous things. I feel deeply ashamed that we let the people suffer, starve and die when we can EASILY do something about it. I feel sorry for all the dumb-asses who believe we live in good and free societies. Its probably because you only have trash to compare with.


    Take your head out of the sand and vote.
    A) tl;dr
    B) *Civilization
    C) If you're going to call people stupid, and **** America, blah blah blah, at least try to abstain from grievous grammatical errors and logical fallacies.
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    A) tl;dr
    B) *Civilization
    C) If you're going to call people stupid, and **** America, blah blah blah, at least try to abstain from grievous grammatical errors and logical fallacies.
    This.

    To expand slightly (on what I THINK you were saying, anyway).
    A (the first paragraph/WoT) is a dream the OP has, which will never happen - being a dream, the contradictions and nonsensicalness suddenly make sense...
    B (the second paragraph/WoT) is what civilization actually consists of, and WILL always consist of, to a greater or lesser degree.
    C (the insult part) Stop being an asshat, or at least apply some logic to your asshattery.
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Do you agree with the statement (above)?

    What a ridiculous world, full of ridiculous countries, and their naive peoples.


    Every single person on this planet is ready to embrace a world society that makes sense. A society where we all get along and cooperate, a society where no one starves, where no one suffers. Everyone is ready to live in and contribute to a society where people do not live under horrific conditions. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where we all cooperate for a better world. Everyone is ready to embrace a society which is well organised and stable with a model that doesn't look like its made by monkeys. Everyone is ready for a society without all the lies, the deceit, manipulation and corruption. Everyone is ready to embrace a free society rather than be jailed and restricted by their governments. Everyone is ready to be free and open their mind instead of being narrow minded and controlled. Everyone is ready to embrace a society where everyone else is good and kind. Everyone is ready to live on a clean and wonderful planet. Everyone is ready to embrace useful change. Everyone wants quality. Everyone is ready for a fair economic system that make sense. Everyone wants everyone else to smile. Everyone wants a world of joy. Everyone wants to be safe. Everyone wants to experience fantastic and great things. Everyone wants to breathe clean air, everyone wants to drink pure water, everyone wants to eat delicious food. We all want to be happy. Everyone wants to live on a planet where everyone else is happy. Everyone wants a planet where everyone have all these things. Everyone wants to have a just society.


    But no. We have a society full of corruption, our planet is turning into a horrible hole, we are ruining the only place we have. We fight wars AGAINST OURSELVES. We lie, we manipulate, we are cruel to each others. We live on deception. Everyone is trapped in a society with massive brainwashing, where they have no ability to think for themselves any longer. We let the governments take all power and leave only an illusion to the people. Our society look like its organised by monkeys and savages. People starve, die of thirst and suffer every single minute. Our society is completely unstable so we choose not to cooperate and rather work against each others. For anyone who is awake and not an idiot, our society doesnt make sense at all. We poison our own food, we pollute our drinking water and soil, we empty the oceans, we live in really ugly cities. The government is hugging us so hard that they are suffocating us. Our rights are taken away day by day. We only care about profit. Everything we buy is low quality junk. Most people either steal from others as a criminal act or as a legal job, most people think only of them self. Most people say cruel things to others and try to create disharmony since they have no harmony themselves. We all feel bad.

    So f*** the US, they are now the worst.
    ...and Europe, we are on the same slippery slope.

    We step on the shoulders of the poor and suffering, we abuse other nations, we wage wars against them and kill their families, we poison their minds with unsound logic, we pretend we have democracy and stand and step on freedom and choice. We do most of the above things. We suck actually. We are immoral bastards.

    So, aside from the crooks in the US and Europe, how is the rest of the world? A damn slave labour camp, and those who don't do that, they suffer and die every day, from starvation or thirst or just horrid general conditions.


    This is ONE planet. We are ALL responsible to look at ourselves as ONE people. If someone from outside looked at this place, YOU would be considered one of those idiots on a planet with such a pathetic civilisation.

    Personally I am deeply ashamed to be a human being, being part of such a pathetic civilisation among people who do such horrendous things. I feel deeply ashamed that we let the people suffer, starve and die when we can EASILY do something about it. I feel sorry for all the dumb-asses who believe we live in good and free societies. Its probably because you only have trash to compare with.


    Take your head out of the sand and vote.
    What exactly do you think we must do to change the world? Workable solutions, please.
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    re: Our civilisation is pathetic. [W:459]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    70 years old and still didnt learn to listen or behave towards other people?

    I would say for a man your age, you are being slightly cruel in this thread
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    If you will take a look at the poll at the beginning of this thread you will see that those who participated agree with me, 31 to 1, that our civilization is not pathetic.

    That tells me that you need to adjust your perspective at least a little.

    I could say a lot more, but I'll just leave it at that.

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