Yes, ObamaCare will reduce healthcare costs and insurance premiums
No, ObamaCare will increase healthcare costs and insurance premiums
Liberals - Punish the Successful, Reward the Unsuccessful
Liberals - Tax, Borrow, Spend, and Give Free Stuff
Obama's legacy - National Debt / Credit Downgrade / Obamacare Failure / Economic Failure / Foreign Policy Failure / Liar of the Year Award / The Rise of ISIS
"Hereís what you need to know. First, I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits Ė either now or in the future. Period. And to prove that Iím serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised donít materialize. Part of the reason I faced a trillion dollar deficit when I walked in the door of the White House is because too many initiatives over the last decade were not paid for Ė from the Iraq War to tax breaks for the wealthy. I will not make that same mistake with health care."
" The plan will not add to our deficit. The middle-class will realize greater security, not higher taxes. And if we are able to slow the growth of health care costs by just one-tenth of one percent each year, it will actually reduce the deficit by $4 trillion over the long term."
S0... where is the first reduction in the deficit he promised?
Should I go to the part of promising everyone will have coverage and no pre-existing conditions would disqualify - and then link to how after 133,000 applications the Obama Administration shut all that down?
Why is it called the Affordable Healthcare Act? It should be called the "Really Expensive Healthcare Act."
The AHA does not roll out in full force until January 1st 2014. What you are experiencing is the last money gouging gasp of the end of the old system.No not for me. My insurance premiums have doubled. My co-pay has doubled +. My prescription drug coverage is next to worthless. My spouse takes a medication that costs 1700.00 every three months without insurance. Before Obamacare our cost was 300+ and today he just got his prescription filled for three months and it cost 570.00. Between the added increase in premiums and prescription drugs, it is costing us dearly.
You should be demanding change not trying to cling to the old rip off system.
You soon will learn how much the republicons have been lying to you.
Last edited by Buck Ewer; 09-30-13 at 10:43 PM.
Health care has a price. Whoever pays what percentage of that price doesn't change the actual cost of that health care. Does PPACA lower the actual cost of health care services?
Health insurance also has a price for monthly premiums. Whether a person/family receives a federal subsidy to assist with the price of that premium does not change its actual price. Does PPACA lower the price of premiums?
"The knowledge and prudence of the poor themselves, are absolutely the only means by which any general and permanent improvement in their condition can be effected." - Thomas Malthus
Central to ObamaCare are requirements that health insurers (1) accept everyone who applies (guaranteed issue), (2) cannot charge more based on serious medical conditions (this is known as modified community rating), and (3) include numerous coverage mandates that force insurance to pay for many often uncovered medical conditions.
This feckless set of rules allows people to forgo buying a policy until they get sick and need coverage (and then drop the policy after they get well). While ObamaCare imposes a financial penalty to discourage people from gaming the system, it is too low to be considered a threat. The result will be insurance pools that are smaller and sicker, and therefore more expensive. Add things like keeping a kid on your insurance to the age of 26 and making birth control free of charge don't help one bit either.
ObamaCare won't take full effect until 2014, health-insurance premiums in the individual market are already rising, and not just because of routine increases in medical costs. Insurers are adjusting premiums now in anticipation of the guaranteed-issue and community-rating mandates starting next year. That is why we are seeing such huge hikes in our premiums.
The mindless Democrats who crafted this boondoggle legislation ignored virtually every principle governing rational insurance pricing. Premiums are already reflecting it.
Last edited by vesper; 10-01-13 at 10:26 AM.