View Poll Results: Will the government is going to shut down? For how long?

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  • No

    9 31.03%
  • Yes, for a day

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  • Yes, for a few days

    11 37.93%
  • Yes, for a few weeks

    3 10.34%
  • Yes, for a month

    1 3.45%
  • Yes, for a few months

    1 3.45%
  • Yes, for 6 months

    0 0%
  • Yes, for more than 6 months

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  • Yes, but for no idea how long

    2 6.90%
  • Belgium, We're coming for your 535 day record!

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Thread: Government's Shutting Down

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    In the mean time, many of us suffer the financial consequences.
    If you have a Federal job which is non-essential, it's the risk you take. Suffering? Like what.... bloated children with fly's buzzing around their eyes type suffering or having to skip the large mocha-latte at starbucks for a few days type suffering?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Don't the Democrats need to raise the debt limit in order to fund ObamaCare?
    Sorry, but that would be impossible. The President was very clear that Obamacare would not add a single dime to the debt.

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sorry, but that would be impossible. The President was very clear that Obamacare would not add a single dime to the debt.
    Yep, that was a whopper alright.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If you have a Federal job which is non-essential, it's the risk you take. Suffering? Like what.... bloated children with fly's buzzing around their eyes type suffering or having to skip the large mocha-latte at starbucks for a few days type suffering?
    401 suffering... for one. Vendors, sub-contractors and such who live pay check to pay check who can't afford a pause in their payments.

    The sort of things that can send people to the poor house.


    That's all.

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    401 suffering... for one. Vendors, sub-contractors and such who live pay check to pay check who can't afford a pause in their payments.

    The sort of things that can send people to the poor house.

    That's all.
    That's not suffering. And let's not forget those vendors and sub-contractors many of which are unionized will simply go back to their unions and go to a different work site during the shut down. Those who are not unionized can still take on work at other locations. Should a shut down occur for a long period of time, these vendors and sub-contractors can apply for state run unemployment which will still be working and in effect... no suffering will occur.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's not suffering. And let's not forget those vendors and sub-contractors many of which are unionized will simply go back to their unions and go to a different work site during the shut down. Those who are not unionized can still take on work at other locations. Should a shut down occur for a long period of time, these vendors and sub-contractors can apply for state run unemployment which will still be working and in effect... no suffering will occur.
    Hyperbole in one direction does not excuse hyperbole in another. Even in the creative destruction of the marketplace there is suffering. Job loss isn't pleasant.

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Hyperbole in one direction does not excuse hyperbole in another. Even in the creative destruction of the marketplace there is suffering. Job loss isn't pleasant.
    You see hyperbole where none is present. Having worked for a union and having members of my family who are still in unions what I described is fact. If a union site shuts down before the job is done, the worker goes to the union and is assigned another work location. If there is no work, they are temporarily laid off, and the worker goes to unemployment and collects until the stoppage is over, then is re-hired and goes back to work.

    What you call "suffering" I call a minor inconvenience. American's today have no concept of what "suffering" actually is so bandying such a word around is hyperbole in and of itself.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's not suffering. And let's not forget those vendors and sub-contractors many of which are unionized will simply go back to their unions and go to a different work site during the shut down. Those who are not unionized can still take on work at other locations. Should a shut down occur for a long period of time, these vendors and sub-contractors can apply for state run unemployment which will still be working and in effect... no suffering will occur.
    I don't think you have a grasp of what I'm talking about but, check out the futures around the world..

    Stock Futures of Major World Indexes - Bloomberg

    They're smelling a government shutdown.

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I don't think you have a grasp of what I'm talking about but, check out the futures around the world..

    Stock Futures of Major World Indexes - Bloomberg

    They smelling a government shutdown.
    So what? The stock market has increased consistently - this is a short term blip which will have zero effect on long term 401k's and long term investments. If there has been ANY winner in the past two years it' been the stock market so they are the absolutely LAST group I'd worried about "suffering".
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Shutdown in T-28 minutes.

    If I was betting, I'd be betting that 8 of you who voted on "No" are going to be wrong.
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