View Poll Results: Will the government is going to shut down? For how long?

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  • No

    9 31.03%
  • Yes, for a day

    0 0%
  • Yes, for a few days

    11 37.93%
  • Yes, for a few weeks

    3 10.34%
  • Yes, for a month

    1 3.45%
  • Yes, for a few months

    1 3.45%
  • Yes, for 6 months

    0 0%
  • Yes, for more than 6 months

    0 0%
  • Yes, but for no idea how long

    2 6.90%
  • Belgium, We're coming for your 535 day record!

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Thread: Government's Shutting Down

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    I don't think it will. The rider that the idiot GOP is attaching to the debt ceiling is a far greater concern and one I could see dinging the credit rating again.
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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Yes? No? How long?
    If my youngest were not a federal worker, I'd say shut that mutha down till they get their fiscal house in order. [which might take a life time at this rate]
    Last edited by WCH; 09-30-13 at 08:25 AM.

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say no.The republicans will puss out.
    They'll push it as far as they can but there's only so much they can do - this is already law - defunding a law is not easy especially one as large as this with a split ideological Congress. Strategically Republicans should fund this and take the fight into the debt ceiling where they have a better chance at giving Democrats more heartburn than on this issue.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    The American people need to get a burr under their collective saddles and demand change from our representatives.

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Boehner and Reid might as well have a pistol duel at a thousand yards...lots of smoke and noise, and that's about it.

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    They'll push it as far as they can but there's only so much they can do - this is already law - defunding a law is not easy especially one as large as this with a split ideological Congress. Strategically Republicans should fund this and take the fight into the debt ceiling where they have a better chance at giving Democrats more heartburn than on this issue.
    Don't the Democrats need to raise the debt limit in order to fund ObamaCare?

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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Don't the Democrats need to raise the debt limit in order to fund ObamaCare?
    As I understand it, yes they do. However my point was simply that Republicans cannot fight against a straight forward funding of a law that's already been passed and upheld by the SCOTUS. In my opinion, they're simply causing as much havoc as possible given the law has been and continues to be unpopular, but there's only so far they can go. They can and should continue to peck away at the debt ceiling since it include ObamaCare and hundreds of other items that could be cut and some probably should be. Continue to peck away at increased spending, continue the fight on the debt ceiling and hitting the public over the head with the amount of debt future generations will be required to pay back. The fight against ObamaCare won't go away with passing a spending bill this week - it will continue to be the main rotten apple threatening to rotten the rest of the barrel.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As I understand it, yes they do. However my point was simply that Republicans cannot fight against a straight forward funding of a law that's already been passed and upheld by the SCOTUS. In my opinion, they're simply causing as much havoc as possible given the law has been and continues to be unpopular, but there's only so far they can go. They can and should continue to peck away at the debt ceiling since it include ObamaCare and hundreds of other items that could be cut and some probably should be. Continue to peck away at increased spending, continue the fight on the debt ceiling and hitting the public over the head with the amount of debt future generations will be required to pay back. The fight against ObamaCare won't go away with passing a spending bill this week - it will continue to be the main rotten apple threatening to rotten the rest of the barrel.
    I agree. However, as I understand, neither OC nor the debt limit are negotiable in the eyes of the POTUS and Senate Dems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I agree. However, as I understand, neither OC nor the debt limit are negotiable in the eyes of the POTUS and Senate Dems.
    Probably so - yet the only way Republicans have a chance at unseating some Senate seats in 2014 will be to continue to pound on things like ObamaCare and the debt ceiling which I believe public polls show have a majority of people firmly on Republicans side:
    Poll: 44 percent of Americans oppose raising debt ceiling - First Read

    If Republicans can stay on game by focusing primarily on economic issues and not be distracted by social issues - they will gain seats in 2014. All this political back and forth is an attempt to frame the 2014 mid term elections.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Government's Shutting Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Probably so - yet the only way Republicans have a chance at unseating some Senate seats in 2014 will be to continue to pound on things like ObamaCare and the debt ceiling which I believe public polls show have a majority of people firmly on Republicans side:
    Poll: 44 percent of Americans oppose raising debt ceiling - First Read

    If Republicans can stay on game by focusing primarily on economic issues and not be distracted by social issues - they will gain seats in 2014. All this political back and forth is an attempt to frame the 2014 mid term elections.
    In the mean time, many of us suffer the financial consequences.

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