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Yep, and Obama was wrong.
So was he also a terrorist?
Yep, and Obama was wrong.
Have you conveniently forgotten that Baucus was one of the chief authors of Obamacare? And if he thinks it is a train wreck, then Hell, it's worse than what the Republicans are claiming!
Firstly, the minority party spends like just drunken sailors just as bad as the majority party.
Secondly, the government should start actually fiscally responsible right now which requires reasonable behavior from both the Republicans and the Democrats.
Lastly, being in debt for a nation state is not fiscally irresponsible in and of itself, sovereign debt is a major source of market stability as well as a means for a country to invest in itself. That's not to say a country can borrow, borrow, borrow without any regard to its ability to repay but some borrowing is good and desirable, the issue comes when you become like Greece where they borrowed so much money that their required GDP growth would have to have been in the double digits in order for enough government revenue to be generated from taxes for the government to pay its debts. Then of course the recession hit which made it even worse, the US is not anywhere near that point it has every economic means to repay its debts so long as the government is willing to honor them.
Even if you want the government to lower its debts, which I do as well, the solution is not to simply stop paying them. You wouldn't advise someone who's in debt that simply stopping to pay his bills is a smart way to get out of debt would you? The US government must honor the debt's its made while reducing its future creation of debts
Yup. And all budgets involve negotiation. The Administration wants to avoid that by refusing to have a budget. Too Bad, So Sad. Negotiate.
So was he also a terrorist?
The GOP will pay a price for this. Don't take my word for this, just wait and see. This is a stupid thing for them to do. There is no upside for them with this stupidity. They will pay a price for this.
You realize that Baucus remains a strong supporter of the ACA
and his 'train wreck' comment was really referring to Republicans stripping out any money for education and implementation?
Here's a rather frightening article about the repercussions of a credit default:
Wall Street to GOP: Are you nuts? - Ben White - POLITICO.com
"A brief shutdown would have some negative economic effects and could create political blowback on the GOP. But it would cause far less long-term damage than a default, which would likely send interest rates sky-rocketing, crush the stock market, devastate business and consumer confidence, and probably send the nation’s economy hurtling back into recession if not depression."
Let's say you and your brother go out for dinner. Your brother's behind the wheel. He wants Mexican, and you want Italian. You can't convince him and he can't convince you along the way. As you near a sharp curve, he keeps his foot on the gas and demands you give in to Mexican or he'll drive you both off the road.
All bias aside, is this not what House Republicans are doing? They had two years in the last Congress to push their ideas. They failed to pass their agenda through the Senate and signed into law by the President. They lost seats in the election. They've had another 9 months to argue their ideas, with even less to show for it. Now that there is no time for debate, they are demanding their ideas be enacted or they will allow a catastrophic default on the US Government's debt.
Is it out of bounds to demand this when you have not been able to convince your fellow Congressmen to support your ideas when there was time to debate them? Or is using the threat of disaster a legitimate political tool?
Isn't it fun to imagine the Administration controls the entire US government? Isn't is so much simpler to pretend The House doesn't continually churn up chunks of knowingly impassable crap year after year?
Romney, Like GWB before him, was born on third base and convinced a bunch of morons that he hit a triple.
"Enacting the provisions" is not the same as claiming the entire bill is a "train wreck." Learn to read. Implementation of the law and the law itself, especially a law this complex are two different things, and especially since APRIL was when the GOP HOR defunded the implementation budget. I realize nuance is something most conservatives don't get, but show a shred of intellectual honesty, please.
They would pay an equal price for NOT doing it. Believe it or not there are still some of us who have Principles and who will not vote for those who fail to uphold theirs after having stated them.
As I understand it he was referring to implementation all-together. However, think about the implications of claiming that a program is going to fall apart because enough people won't be draining money from it.
They will pay a price for this.
I believe that some people in the Tea Party's 'principles' will cause them to go right over the edge of the Teavangelical's Flat Earth.
They will get no sympathy from me. I have been warning them about this result for years.
"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
That's fine. I, like many of them, have no problem bearing the consequences of our Principles. The problem comes when people (like Libs) have no Principles and therefore cannot be expected to act in any predictable (nevermind decent) way.
As for the GOP... You're right they're running out of time.The only thing is that group may be a militia/army rather than a political party.They have chosen to refuse to back those with Principles and soon will just become the Centrist portion of the Democratic Party while another, more Principled group rises to take their place.
:shrug: no one ever said that it does. However, it does control the White House and the Senate. That being said, I note that nothing you posted even addresses much less refutes what I pointed out: that budget negotiations involve actual negotiation, as well as compromise, and so the Administration has been trying to lock in the results of a year when it owned both houses of Congress and the White House in perpetuity by going outside the Budget Process to fund government. Now they are acting shocked to find people demanding compromise and negotiation, and climbing up on donkeys and tilting and windmill monsters, denouncing the very idea of negotiation. How Dare you think we would compromise?!? :roll:
It's childish and its cheap, but there are enough useful idiots in the media and low-information consumers that they will probably get away with it.
Wrong. The GOP will join the Whigs. There will be no one to replace.
Yet the Republicans in the House can't even get their act together to vote on a clean CR...and you expect reasonable negotiations? The GOP has declared themselves to be a body that won't compromise.
No. They're simply becoming the right end of the Democratic Party, which makes them Centrists, by definition.
At the moment that there is nobody to counter the Leftist/Socialists in the Democratic Party, it's time to burn this nation the ground by whatever means are necessary.
Any militia, or group which thinks (Wishes, hopes, dreams.) That it will go to war against the USA will end up like the South did in the American Civil War.
When this is all over with, in the future, there will be no right, and there will certainly be no GOP.