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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Perhaps if you didn't just parrot other people you would have bothered to understand what the term means before using it. Then again, your lean is libertarian-left and I strongly suspect you don't know the first thing about it.
    I strongly suspect you can enjoy being on ignore. Bye bye now.
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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....keep telling yourself that...and ignore the fact that the higher educated a person is....the more likely they are to vote democrat. Ignore the fact that most GOP voters are the under-educated low information crowd...if it make you feel better.
    If true, I'm not sure if that has more to do with an informed and honest opinion, or extra time being indoctrinated by leftist professors.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I strongly suspect you can enjoy being on ignore. Bye bye now.
    Fun fact: People that call themselves libertarian-left believe in natural rights and the same time don't believe people have a right to property. Of course, you can't believe in natural rights and at the same time not recognize property as a human right. Idiots. Just one of the many things in politics that makes me laugh.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Will the repubs never learn? They will continue to will themselves into oblivion by engaging in silly political games. The American people aren't buying their gamesmanship....
    You couldn't be farther from the truth. The House is responding to the overwhelming calls they have had from their constituents to stop Obamacare anyway they can.

    This administration has yet to produce a budget that even the President's party can agree to pass. We keep having to raise the debt ceiling because this administration refuses to operate within one. Absolute irresponsible behavior at the expense of the taxpayers.

    The majority of folks don't want Obamacare. People are losing their healthcare over this boondoggle. Employers can't carry the burden of the cost to them so they are cutting their workforce to part-time employees to skirt the law. Even the unions don't want it. Those who are still paying for their own policies have been burdened with increases in premiums as a direct result of Obamacare due to things like forcing insurance companies to cover any pre-existing conditions and allowing children to be covered up to the age of friggin 26 for cripe sake on a policy. Jeesh!

    Most thinking folks are asking if some can get exempted from this burden for one year why can't all people?

    Bottom line this bill was passed in a Democrat Congress with a Democrat President. The bill with its hundreds of pages wasn't even read before the Democrats voted yes on it. Today we are seeing the consequences of this fecklessness by one problem after another in implementing the bill. Even the major author of the bill Democrat Baucus has stated "it's a train wreck". So why in Sam Hill would you still push for it other than to save face at the expense of the American people?

    Disney Dude when SNL starts mocking it you got to admit it's a wreck and needs to be stopped. Enjoy

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    Last edited by vesper; 09-30-13 at 01:28 AM.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....keep telling yourself that...and ignore the fact that the higher educated a person is....the more likely they are to vote democrat. Ignore the fact that most GOP voters are the under-educated low information crowd...if it make you feel better.
    You wouldn't happen be using schooling and education interchangeably, would you? Perhaps someone claiming to be smarter than everyone else should learn the difference. Just sayin'

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    Why do we have a debt ceiling? If congress is just supposed to automatically raise the limit every time we hit the ceiling no questions asked it seems a silly thing to have. Yet, we have it. Using it as a negotiation tool may very well be the reason we have it?
    That sounds just like a terrorists justification for 911. We wouldn't have built those wide body jets if they couldn't be flown into the world Trade Center would we?
    Terrorism was not foreseen by our forefathers I'm afraid and neither did they foresee a bunch of ignorant a-holes holding our country hostage. They should be tarred and feathered and run out of town and their wealthy donors with them.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Even the major author of the bill Democrat Baucus has stated "it's a train wreck".
    WRONG. Baucus never said the bill was a "train wreck."

    "A lot of people have no idea about all of this," he said. "People just don't know a lot about it, and the Kaiser poll pointed that out. I understand you've hired a contractor. I'm just worried that that's gonna be money down the drain because contractors like to make money ... I just tell ya, I just see a huge train wreck coming down."
    He was referring to the implementation of the law, in the context of how HHS could educate people as to the vagaries of the new and complex law after the implementation budget was basically gutted in April.

    The Secret History of Max Baucus' "Train Wreck" Quote

    Yet another lie, courtesy of the GOP spin machine. In before the inevitable bitching about the source.

    Oh, and by the way, Baucus walked back his concerns over implementation about two weeks ago.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch...sent-a-message

    "We'll see Oct. 1, but I think they are doing a pretty good job," Baucus said in an interview with Fox Business Network. "I think the train is going to keep running, maybe not totally on time, but it's going to be pretty efficient."
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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    You couldn't be farther from the truth. The House is responding to the overwhelming calls they have had from their constituents to stop Obamacare anyway they can.

    This administration has yet to produce a budget that even the President's party can agree to pass. We keep having to raise the debt ceiling because this administration refuses to operate within one. Absolute irresponsible behavior at the expense of the taxpayers.

    The majority of folks don't want Obamacare. People are losing their healthcare over this boondoggle. Employers can't carry the burden of the cost to them so they are cutting their workforce to part-time employees to skirt the law. Even the unions don't want it. Those who are still paying for their own policies have been burdened with increases in premiums as a direct result of Obamacare due to things like forcing insurance companies to cover any pre-existing conditions and allowing children to be covered up to the age of friggin 26 for cripe sake on a policy. Jeesh!

    Most thinking folks are asking if some can get exempted from this burden for one year why can't all people?

    Bottom line this bill was passed in a Democrat Congress with a Democrat President. The bill with its hundreds of pages wasn't even read before the Democrats voted yes on it. Today we are seeing the consequences of this fecklessness by one problem after another in implementing the bill. Even the major author of the bill Democrat Baucus has stated "it's a train wreck". So why in Sam Hill would you still push for it other than to save face at the expense of the American people?

    Disney Dude when SNL starts mocking it you got to admit it's a wreck and needs to be stopped. Enjoy

    SNL Mocks ObamaCare
    The Senate passed a budget in March of this year and the House refused to take it up. Just like last Nov., you are sadly going to be disappointed again when the exchanges open as scheduled and millions get insurance that they never had before. I do see why you are so franticly trying to stop the inevitable but you will fall so hard when you fail. Please strap a pillow to your butt.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That sounds just like a terrorists justification for 911. We wouldn't have built those wide body jets if they couldn't be flown into the world Trade Center would we?
    Terrorism was not foreseen by our forefathers I'm afraid and neither did they foresee a bunch of ignorant a-holes holding our country hostage. They should be tarred and feathered and run out of town and their wealthy donors with them.
    But wide body jets serve another purpose. Transporting people and things from point A to point B. What is the point of the debt ceiling? Why does it exist? What other purpose does it have, other than a negotiation tool?

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That sounds just like a terrorists justification for 911. We wouldn't have built those wide body jets if they couldn't be flown into the world Trade Center would we?
    Terrorism was not foreseen by our forefathers I'm afraid and neither did they foresee a bunch of ignorant a-holes holding our country hostage. They should be tarred and feathered and run out of town and their wealthy donors with them.
    Terrorism is a war tactic that throughout history governments and other groups have used on a regular basis. It's a bit stupid to think that our forefathers couldn't foresee it.

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