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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Correct. It's the 27th amendment. However, they could refuse their salary, eliminate the expense accounts. Eliminate vacations. Making an effort would get my attention.
    Allow their bar tabs to be called in.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    That's why the founders wrote the first amendment, So people could disagree.

    If you believe in what you say, form a group of like minded people, collect a few dollars from each, and pick and choose those you want to help. I've got no problem with that as long as you don't force me to join your group, buy your product, or use my money for your charity.
    I've got no problem with you moving out of the US either. You are free to go. No one is forcing you to stay here.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The House asked for a one-year delay in implementing Obamacare. Not replace, not repeal, just a one-year delay. With all the problems currently becoming obvious with Obamacare, you'd think that a reprieve would be agreeable, and the thing could be fixed in the interim, instead of the current "learn as you go" technique. That was not acceptable to Obama, so we have a shutdown.

    The House approved the CR on spending, so our credit rating should stay intact. What else can be done at this point? Obama seems to think he should get everything he wants, and the other side nothing? That is ridiculous, since the House representatives also listen to their constituents, as they should. We have a $17 trillion dollar debt hanging over our heads like Damocles sword, and cuts will have to be made, whether Obama, Reid, and Pelosi agree or not, because the debt will affect everyone!

    Good evening, Jimbo.
    Obamacare is the law and it is already funded and today it went into effect. Any problems it has can be fixed so what would be the purpose of delaying it for another year? Oh, thats right, next year is an election year and delaying until after the election would be a Republicans dream, especially if it helped them win the senate. Now why on earth would the democrats agree to that?

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Obamacare is the law and it is already funded and today it went into effect. Any problems it has can be fixed so what would be the purpose of delaying it for another year? Oh, thats right, next year is an election year and delaying until after the election would be a Republicans dream, especially if it helped them win the senate. Now why on earth would the democrats agree to that?
    I too believe Democrats are stonewalling and helping this shutdown happen so their election chances will be better....nothing else makes sense except for there being politics behind all this.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I've got no problem with you moving out of the US either. You are free to go. No one is forcing you to stay here.
    you can go too....

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I've got no problem with you moving out of the US either. You are free to go. No one is forcing you to stay here.
    No one is forcing me to stay, and I am asking no one to pay my bills or contribute to my chartities.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Allow their bar tabs to be called in.
    That too

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    American has more than enough to pay it's bills, that has nothing to do with this hijacking.
    That is why we borrow half of what we spend.

    I am in favor of paying our bills. I am not in favor of taking on more debt until we get that wed already have under control.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I too believe Democrats are stonewalling and helping this shutdown happen so their election chances will be better....nothing else makes sense except for there being politics behind all this.
    I don't think the democrats are stonewalling...I think they're just refusing to be extorted and rightly so.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    what the house has passed as a spending bill is different then what the senate passed as a spending bill.

    normally any differances are resolved in conferance commitees but it seems that one side is reluctant to go into conference committees.


    Republicans Spent Year Blocking Budget Conference (VIDEO)
    The senate didnt pass a spending bill. In fact, since July, they have only voted on 2 bills, one to amend the Helium Act, and one to amend student loan interest rates. Theres no conference to go to if they dont amend and pass a bill.

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