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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Compromise under the threat of government shutdown is not compromise, it is terrorism.

    In retrospect, the "anyone but Obama" folks who turned into "do anything to prevent an Obama second term" folks who turned into "block anything Obama tries to do" folks.......probably should have thought about compromise in 2009,2010,2011,2012, and before October of 2013.

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    I love how the party that has made its hay from being rock-solid intransigent for the last five years is somehow the victim of "no compromise" all of a sudden. Republican apologists will say ANYTHING to excuse the GOP's reprehensible behavior.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I love how the party that has made its hay from being rock-solid intransigent for the last five years is somehow the victim of "no compromise" all of a sudden. Republican apologists will say ANYTHING to excuse the GOP's reprehensible behavior.
    Repubs have been no more reprehensible than the Dems.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Repubs have been no more reprehensible than the Dems.
    All evidence to the contrary.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    All evidence to the contrary.
    The evidence is before us all. I belong to neither party. Both have been childish and shortsighted throughout the BHO Presidency.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    That isn't an offer. Threatening to damage the nation if your demands aren't met is extortion, not compromise. Its reckless and destructive behavior that is totally unacceptable for an elected official.
    Republican compromise offers are extortion and reckless and destructive behaviour, and "I will not negotiate: is acceptable negotiating tactics?

    You may not believe this, but there are those that believe the funding of Obamacare is reckless and destructive to the country.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Repubs have been no more reprehensible than the Dems.
    At least the Repubs were willing to negotiate! BHO was not, as he so stated! :

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    At least the Repubs were willing to negotiate! BHO was not, as he so stated! :
    and if you think obama would consider undermining the signature legislative achievement of his first term as president, then you must have not been paying attention to politics.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and if you think obama would consider undermining the signature legislative achievement of his first term as president, then you must have not been paying attention to politics.
    Obama stated he would not negotiate on entitlement spending. Obamacare was not the problem.

    Greetings, Unitedwestand.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    At least the Repubs were willing to negotiate! BHO was not, as he so stated! :
    How is it negotiating when you refuse to change a condition your opponent refuses to accept?

    When there is no ZOPA, saying you're willing to negotiate is a lie.

    Offering to talk when neither side is willing to budge is an empty gesture
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and if you think obama would consider undermining the signature legislative achievement of his first term as president, then you must have not been paying attention to politics.
    Which is the point. It is all about politics and his signature legislative achievement, your words, not mine.. It has nothing to do with what is good for the country and its citizens.

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