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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    If the Democrats would rather talk about a budget as opposed to a CR, I'm sure they house wouldn't mind. But the Democrats don't want to do that.
    the senate passed a budget a while back and so far nothing has been decieded upon in the house.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    This is getting a little bit childish. Both House and Senate have passed bills. Problem is that neither likes the other's bill.
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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Doh, the Senate passed a budget, too.....
    I'll admit, I didn't know that - thank you.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The affordable care act is already the law of land. You don't "compromise" by "giving" someone half of what they already have.
    Incorrect. You do compromise by giving up something you already have or something you want in exchange for something you want worse.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Incorrect. You do compromise by giving up something you already have or something you want in exchange for something you want worse.
    Except that the democrats aren't being offered anything at all, much less something then "want worse" than the ACA.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Except that the democrats aren't being offered anything at all, much less something then "want worse" than the ACA.
    They are being offerred no government shut down in exchange for a delay in the half of Obamacare that Obama has not granted delays.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Incorrect. You do compromise by giving up something you already have or something you want in exchange for something you want worse.
    Compromise under the threat of government shutdown is not compromise, it is terrorism.

    In retrospect, the "anyone but Obama" folks who turned into "do anything to prevent an Obama second term" folks who turned into "block anything Obama tries to do" folks.......probably should have thought about compromise in 2009,2010,2011,2012, and before October of 2013.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    They are being offerred no government shut down in exchange for a delay in the half of Obamacare that Obama has not granted delays.
    That isn't an offer. Threatening to damage the nation if your demands aren't met is extortion, not compromise. Its reckless and destructive behavior that is totally unacceptable for an elected official.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Except that the democrats aren't being offered anything at all, much less something then "want worse" than the ACA.
    Wonder how the nation would have reacted to Pelosi in 2005 saying "End the tax cuts, or we shut down the government."
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