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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The real question is who is holding the debt ceiling hostage? There is a bill in the Senate which will fund government till the next crisis. Mostly what the Pres and the dems wanted, except for the about half of Obamacare which he has already put on hold or granted an exemption.
    The bill to fund the government and raising the debt ceiling are two different things.
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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The real question is who is holding the debt ceiling hostage? There is a bill in the Senate which will fund government till the next crisis. Mostly what the Pres and the dems wanted, except for the about half of Obamacare which he has already put on hold or granted an exemption.
    The obamatardation over this abomination is a real joke. The clown in chief doesn't have the authority to delay or change the law that was duly passed and sustained by four lapdogs and one "creative thinker" on the supreme court.



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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The electorate will hold the Republicans responsible and they are. They can do this and it will cost us billions of dollars. The best part of the last time the Repubs did this is that sequestration was initiated. Wowser, a 10% cut in Military Offense and a backfire to the Repub war hawks. A backhand upside the old cerebellum. I hope it happens again. More budget cuts to the military. Sounds good to me.
    If the electorate holds the only party that has actually passed a budget and put forward compromise legislation, only to have one man, namely Harry Reid, refuse to allow senate deliberation on the compromise position. I'd say the electorate is either deceived, ignorant or stupid.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The bill to fund the government and raising the debt ceiling are two different things.
    No its not.Raising the debt ceiling is asking to borrow more money to fund the government.
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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    We are witnessing the death of the GOP. Before all this is said and done, they will be split and down to about 20% support.

    Remember, not only are htey against sanity, they are still at war against women.

    ..and contraception
    House Republicans have added a measure aimed at limiting contraceptive coverage to the spending bill coming up for a vote Saturday night, a spokesman for Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kansas, told CNN.

    A senior House leadership aide confirmed that development.

    The so-called “conscience clause” would allow employers and insurers to opt out of preventative care for women which they find objectionable on moral or religious grounds. That prominently includes birth control...

    GOP adds ‘conscience clause’ to spending bill – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    Sit back and enjoy the carnage. If a party ever deserved to die, it's this gang of idiots.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    We are witnessing the death of the GOP. Before all this is said and done, they will be split and down to about 20% support.

    Remember, not only are htey against sanity, they are still at war against women.

    ..and contraception



    Sit back and enjoy the carnage. If a party ever deserved to die, it's this gang of idiots.
    There's no law against stupid. HEHEHE. Ain't no rocket scientists in our gov't. Of any party.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    If the electorate holds the only party that has actually passed a budget and put forward compromise legislation, only to have one man, namely Harry Reid, refuse to allow senate deliberation on the compromise position. I'd say the electorate is either deceived, ignorant or stupid.
    The election of Obama pretty much confirmed you are correct



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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The bill to fund the government and raising the debt ceiling are two different things.
    Poll: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    No it's not. The problem is the government cannot fund itself without borrowing funds. It cannot borrow without raising the debt ceiling. House has authorized borrowing for all government expenditures except Obamacare, which would be taking on new debt.

    If you can't pay what you already owe, it makes no sense to take on new debt.

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The election of Obama pretty much confirmed you are correct
    Right because McPalin and the Mormon were such wonderful options

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    Re: Is it Fair Play to Hold the Debt Ceiling Hostage?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Right because McPalin and the Mormon were such wonderful options

    Romney was far better in most areas. I realize to the gay rights are the most important issue crowd, Obama was a better choice. On stuff that concerns most intelligent Americans, Romney was better. he sure is smarter and has actually accomplished things other than winning elections



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