Also, a lot of what he says is facetious, to demonstrate a point. But most liberals never realize this because the partisan propaganda mills that spoon-feed them their talking points (Media Matters, FAIR, ThinkProgress, MoveOn, etc.) regularly take unmistakably facetious comments of his and deliberately misrepresent them as literal, serious statements of his opinion.
The "post-partisan" candidate for "change" even did this in a reprehensibly dishonest campaign ad in 2008, smearing John "Amnesty" McCain as racist for agreeing with Rush Limbaugh, who had railed about “…stupid and unskilled Mexicans” and had told them, "You shut your mouth or you get out!”
The problem with this of course, other than the fact that McCain is completely opposite of Rush on immigration and almost everything else, is that these quotes were from a facetious Rush rant where he was pretending to endorse all the immigration policies that Mexico enacts (which are insanely intolerant of illegal immigrants) to make the point that the Mexican government is in no place to smear us as inhumane for enforcing our already incredibly lax immigration laws. Even ABC and the Politico chastised Obama for his disgustingly sleazy partisanship on this one:
Political Punch: From the Fact Check Desk: Obama's New Spanish Language TV Ad Es ErrÃ³neo
By the way, notice how Obama spent the entire campaign sniveling and crying about guilt-by-association for people noticing his terrible character judgment, while preaching about "gutter politics," yet the very centerpiece of his own campaign was the constant use of ACTUAL guilt-by-association (Bush-McCain, Bush-McCain, Bush-McCain), even when there was absolutely no basis for it?
Must be nice to be able to say anything, no matter how outrageously false, and never be held accountable.
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner (paraphrasing James Bovard).
Originally Posted by Jerry
It is completley relevant. Like I said, I was perscribed enough Diladids to get me addicted 3 fold. Had that happened, it would be a far cry different than choosing to go out, buy an illegal substance, use it to get high, then get addicted.
That said, It would be my own damn fault for being addicted and doctor shopping as it was Rush's.
He owned up to it. Imaging if all you lefties treated all those addicted the way you bloviate on about him.
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Remember, I voted for Nader.
Originally Posted by Jerry
I think he actually admitted as much. Where I would have a problem is if he tried to defend his own actions and pass them off without recognizing the same thing about himself with regards to them. But in truth, I haven't found anything that shows that he didn't hold that view of his own drug use. His commetns seem to say that he feels the same way, even with regard to his own actions.Every time you go back, you are making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that.’... What he’s saying is that if there’s a line of cocaine here, I have to make the choice to go down and sniff it….And his point is that we are rationalizing all this irresponsibility and all the choices people are making and we’re blaming not them, but society for it.
That's not necessarily hypocrisy. It only becomes hypocricy if he tries to treat his own actions differently than he does other people's actions.
Now, I would prefer to hear the full context of this comment:
Before I vilify Rush over it. Was it said in a "It's such a pity, he's just another dead drug addict" fashion or was it said with a degree of "glee" over Garcia's death? If said with glee, he was being a total asshole, but not necessarily a hypocrite. He might have felt that the same statement would apply to himself if he had died during his period of drug use.[He’s] another dead drug addict.
I cannot necessarily make a claim to hypocricy on that comment alone.
On this quote:
He in effect says he should have gone to jail for his actions.And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up. What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we’re not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.
One could easily argue the fact that he fought so hard against the charges, and accepted treatment in liue of jail-time, even after admitting responsibility for hi sactions, implies he was acting in a hypocritical manner.
I would like to know if he still holds the views regarding jail-time for addicts or if he has softened on that stance.
There is no difference in illegally obtaining prescription drugs and illegally obtaining other drugs. His argument was that breaking the law for drugs should be punishable by jail-time. He clearly broke laws in order to obtain his drugs. Seems pretty clear that if he still holds these views, or he held them and espoused them while he was addicted and illegally obtaining drugs, he deserves to be called a hypocrite.
Also, if he treats illegally obtaining prescription drugs as more forgivable than illegally obtaining other drugs, he is engaging in hypocricy. Since the statemnts above were never qualified regarding the type of drugs, only in the legality of obtaining them, the argument for "hypocricy" would be sound if he still stands by the comments.
P.S. What I would like to see more than anything else, is if Limbaugh ever made derisive comments about Elvis' drug use, or other prescription drug abusers, prior to Rush's "outing" for drug use. But if he made sympathetic comments about prescription drug-abuse, I would have to say that even if he still holds the all of the quoted views regarding drug use above, he couldn't necesarily be labelled a hypocrite in any circumstance because he has always made a distinction.
That would be interesting to find out, if possible.
Tucker Case - Tard magnet.