View Poll Results: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

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  • Yes, Democrats are more empathetic

    20 51.28%
  • Yes, Republicans are more empathetic

    2 5.13%
  • Yes, and that's a good thing, people should look out for themselves, others will for themselves

    4 10.26%
  • No, there is no empathy gap

    13 33.33%
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It is actually the states.
    What is this, the 10th amendment? How could that possibly be true? How could a state have the authority to tell a foreigner that they are now a US citizen? That doesn't even make any sense. I know Arizona thinks it's true, but that doesn't make it. Otherwise Vermont would just be the Ellis Island of every hippie in the world.
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    What do you mean by the perceived correctness, and what doesn't matter about it? I hope if you thought GW wasn't fiscally conservative you were saying that during his presidency, because I didn't hear peep from most conservatives until the financial crisis.
    Yea I was against the prescription drug bill, against bail out, against ss tax rate adjustment, against cash stimulus checks to taxpayers, unsure about Iraq war and deficit spending in general.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Yea I was against the prescription drug bill, against bail out, against ss tax rate adjustment, against cash stimulus checks to taxpayers, unsure about Iraq war and deficit spending in general.
    Gotcha.
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    You have just used every left wing inspired caricature of what a conservative is, As Dennis Prager is fond of saying "you must have gone to graduate school". If you know him you'll know why he says that, and it's not good. You should probably have some honest conversations with conservatives, it might help your pathology.
    If conservatives don't want to be seen that way, then you should acting like that.
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Liberals are stereotypically "bleeding-heart" compared to conservatives, but the more I think about it the more it seems to me that there is simply an empathy gap between Dems and Repubs:

    Health Care: Democrats passed Obamacare to address the millions of uninsured people across the country. Republican opposition never addresses those people and instead is framed as how it will effect those that have health insurance.

    Gay Marriage: Biden, Obama, and other prominent Democratic figures have voiced their support for marriage equality. Republicans are almost lockstep against it. The only exceptions are usually Republicans like Dick Cheney and Rob Portman who have gay children. Of course that's not the same as empathy, that is rational self-interest that makes them pro-gay marriage.

    There are other examples.

    Is there a real difference between Democrats and Republicans in terms of empathy, and is that a good or bad thing?
    This is an interesting statement. According to the CBO, after 10 years there will still be the same amount of people without insurance, just different people, so this is an academic excercise.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    In all honesty I have had this thought very often myself. Dems do seem (sweeping generalizations of course) to have a higher level of empathy toward causes that do not directly effect their lives, people they don't actually know and groups that they are not personally involved with. I would also add that they seem to have a higher level of faith in human beings too. Seems as if Republicans need you to meet certain criteria whereby you prove yourself or your cause worthy first.

    I do not believe that Republicans are not good people and do not care. I do believe that they are more cynical about human nature and they first assume you are taking advantage and leave it up to you to prove you are not before they assist. When confronted with what they consider an obvious victim, say abortion for instance, they are inclined to side with the unborn child who does not need to prove anything to them. Gun rights, a constitutional violation of gun owner rights etc.
    These two sentences seem to be contradictory.

    If Democrats really had faith in human beings, they would let them survive on what they can do instead of giving everytrhing to them, thereby removing their drive for advancement.

    Republicans, again generalizing, believe that people can make it ontheir own if given a chance and Democrats don't.

    Who believes more in human beings?

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    There's some truth in that. I'd also say that conservatives believe more in competition while liberals believe more in cooperation.
    What has historically worked better to advance a people?

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post

    Is there a real difference between Democrats and Republicans in terms of empathy, and is that a good or bad thing?
    I don't see any evidence of "empathy differential" - and don't know, for that matter, how to measure such things.

    I am strongly against Obamacare because I think it is an exceptionally bad piece of legislation that is going to make things worse for virtually everyone. Though not a Republican, I assume that many Republicans also pay more attention to what Obamacare actually is and what it will do than to whether it sounds nice on the level of general intent. (I won't even go into whether it is really "nice", to force people buy something they don't want to buy, because you are bursting with empathy toward them).

    You are wrong about gay marriage: many Republicans who supported gay rights before it was fashionable don't have any close gay relatives (Bill Weld, Christine Todd Whitman, Jane Swift, Thomas Kean, Gary Johnson for example - to name just a few ex-governors). Outside of the hard-core religious social conservative minority, the Republican resistance is cultural and generational, more than anything - as could be clearly seen from the recent polling: a majority of Republicans under 50 do support gay marriage:

    Gay marriage support hits new high in Post-ABC poll

    And, of course, we libertarians have hearts of stone (floating in liquid nitrogen), according to the liberal mass-media. Yet we have always been for gay rights...

    My advice would be to stop deciding on who feels what, and focus on the actual content of ideas and arguments.
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What has historically worked better to advance a people?
    A mixture of both, clearly. Take two warring tribes. There's competition between tribes, cooperation within each tribe to bring them together, and competition within them for hierarchy.
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Don't mistake falling into party line for real empathy or lack thereof. Of course, voting against civil rights is not an act of empathy, but i suspect many Dems in office are secretly anti gay and vice versa. These are politicians, so with few exceptions you never know what they're really thinking.

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