View Poll Results: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

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  • Yes, Democrats are more empathetic

    20 51.28%
  • Yes, Republicans are more empathetic

    2 5.13%
  • Yes, and that's a good thing, people should look out for themselves, others will for themselves

    4 10.26%
  • No, there is no empathy gap

    13 33.33%
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What is a civilized society to you? I don't see anything civilized about government welfare.
    the test of whether or not we are a civilized society is if we care for our neediest members of society.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the test of whether or not we are a civilized society is if we care for our neediest members of society.
    So if we use government to help the neediest members of society is for some reason how you measure that?

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So if we use government to help the neediest members of society is for some reason how you measure that?
    the point is that we do care about what happens to the neediest members of society.

    the wrong thing to do is to abandon the people who are in most need.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Supporting government welfare, forced commerce and involuntary servitude is not a sign of empathy towards your fellow man.

    As for gay marriage, the liberal position is just more government power in peoples lives.
    true, supporting welfare etc is no different than a pusher cutting his prices in order to get more people addicted



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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the test of whether or not we are a civilized society is if we care for our neediest members of society.
    Which is why this argument will always break down along ideological lines.

    The old give a man a fish versus teaching him to fish.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the point is that we do care about what happens to the neediest members of society.

    the wrong thing to do is to abandon the people who are in most need.
    Government imposed charity is about market activity, not the poor. If anything it is a subsidy to the rich and there is little doubt that is one of the reasons behind it. The wrong thing to do is to use government force to coerce people to be charitable towards their fellow man. Simply ending this practice doesn't mean that somehow society as a whole will forget about the neediest amongst us. All it does is stop a legal practice that abuses people to help others.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How is legislating charity showing empathy? Is it empathic to the people you're forcing to pay this legislated charity? Sorry, I think when you're acting on one party to help another you aren't being empathic at all.
    Don't get hung up on charity as the benchmark. Is granting marriage equality charity? Is reforming immigration charity?

    Charity has more to do with sympathy than with empathy.
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Don't get hung up on charity as the benchmark. Is granting marriage equality charity? Is reforming immigration charity?
    Government involvement in marriage is about government power, while the immigration reform efforts going on are about votes.

    Charity has more to do with sympathy than with empathy.
    If you say so. Care to answer my question?

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Don't get hung up on charity as the benchmark. Is granting marriage equality charity? Is reforming immigration charity?

    Charity has more to do with sympathy than with empathy.
    And acceptance isn't the same as being empathetic. One could truly be empathetic toward homosexuals who want to marry, and yet not accept that it is good for society.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    When it comes to pretty much every social issue, the conservative stance is entirely rooted in selfishness and a lack of empathy. The idea is "that doesn't work for me, so it can't work for anyone". That's homophobia, misogyny, racism, and religious bigotry in a nutshell. And when it comes to a lot of economic issues, sometimes it comes from genuine skepticism about whether or not we can afford things, but it is mainly a matter of "I don't want my tax money going to things that will primarily help people who aren't me".

    The modern conservative movement is almost entirely based on a lack of empathy. It is about the white, male, Christian, heterosexual, rural and suburban, non-lower class getting theirs and maybe sharing if it benefits them, such as with women they view as "their women", or sometimes their own kids who come out of the closet. Exclusivity and "other"-ness are basically all that conservatism has to talk about. How bad the other people are and how they don't deserve to share this amazing country with conservatives. They're extremely lucky that liberal minded people are inclusive, even to our selfish neighbors. But they are wrong, and we're tired of listening to them whine about how much better they are then the rest of us, and we're tired of catering to their tantrums.
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