View Poll Results: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

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  • Yes, Democrats are more empathetic

    20 51.28%
  • Yes, Republicans are more empathetic

    2 5.13%
  • Yes, and that's a good thing, people should look out for themselves, others will for themselves

    4 10.26%
  • No, there is no empathy gap

    13 33.33%
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    What use is "empathy" in the business of the State, and how did we become so childish in our thinking as to believe that the two are related?

    You can almost hear Adams, or Monroe, or Madison or Hamilton or Washington asking if we've taken leave of our senses.
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    I think you might want to read this op-ed it will enlighten you. you probably wont like what you will be enlightened to


    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/op...nce20.com&_r=0



    I just love crushing a liberals belief system
    You've got a 5 year old opinion article that says one thing, and there's the Washington post article above with numbers saying something else.

    In either case, sympathy is not the same as empathy. Sympathy is one-sided. You feel sorry for the man on the street. You project your emotion onto them. You are judging their situation. You can still do good things out of sympathy, but the connection is very one directional.

    Empathy requires you to put yourself in the person's POV. You do not have to feel sorry for a gay couple to ask yourself how you would feel in their situation if you were not allowed to marry the person you love. From their POV you can make conclusions you might not have on your own.

    There is a cognitive leap between the two. With empathy you are able to recognize diverse viewpoints in order to question your positions and to foster negotiation and compromise.

    In short, you sympathize for someone, you empathize with someone.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    You've got a 5 year old opinion article that says one thing, and there's the Washington post article above with numbers saying something else.

    In either case, sympathy is not the same as empathy. Sympathy is one-sided. You feel sorry for the man on the street. You project your emotion onto them. You are judging their situation. You can still do good things out of sympathy, but the connection is very one directional.

    Empathy requires you to put yourself in the person's POV. You do not have to feel sorry for a gay couple to ask yourself how you would feel in their situation if you were not allowed to marry the person you love. From their POV you can make conclusions you might not have on your own.

    There is a cognitive leap between the two. With empathy you are able to recognize diverse viewpoints in order to question your positions and to foster negotiation and compromise.

    In short, you sympathize for someone, you empathize with someone.
    what difference does it make if it empathy or sympathy if your goal is to help and that is what you do and the end result is the same it doesn't matter now does it

    it doesn't matter where you been unless your looking for an excuse what matters is where you are going

    also sympathy and empathy is a two way street how does the poor know how some one rich feels if that pool person has never been rich or how does a black man know what a write man feels or thinks because he never was write. how does a gay man know what a straight man is like if he never was straight so you cant use that as a one sided excuse like your implying

    see you want to use empathy so to cause others to bend to your ideology but wont do the same in return so to come to a compromise
    Last edited by trfjr; 09-26-13 at 01:42 PM.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    You've got a 5 year old opinion article that says one thing, and there's the Washington post article above with numbers saying something else.

    In either case, sympathy is not the same as empathy. Sympathy is one-sided. You feel sorry for the man on the street. You project your emotion onto them. You are judging their situation. You can still do good things out of sympathy, but the connection is very one directional.

    Empathy requires you to put yourself in the person's POV. You do not have to feel sorry for a gay couple to ask yourself how you would feel in their situation if you were not allowed to marry the person you love. From their POV you can make conclusions you might not have on your own.

    There is a cognitive leap between the two. With empathy you are able to recognize diverse viewpoints in order to question your positions and to foster negotiation and compromise.

    In short, you sympathize for someone, you empathize with someone.


    I would like for you to step out of your shoes and do a little POV as you call it. I want you to show some empathy for this scenario
    You have this business owner that stays up late at night worrying if he made the right decision on some new contract knowing his and his employee future depends on that decision to be the correct one.
    lets say after he makes his car payment on two cars, his house payment, braces on his kids teeth, putting money away for the kids college fund and retirement not relying on the government for any of it and pays close to 50% of his income in taxes. is in line at the grocery store with a basket full of hamburger and not the steaks he wanted so not to dip into the kids college fond and the person in front of him has the basket full of steaks and whips out a snap card to pay for it. why don't you show A little empathy in that situation

    republicans do show empathy but they show it to every one not just to the ones you want to label as oppressed
    Last edited by trfjr; 09-26-13 at 02:05 PM.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Ok, flame me.

    I have often seen Republicans to act more "GOD" (read absolutes and Old Testament")

    on the flipside

    I have seen Democrats as more "Jesus" - clearly the more empathetic and understanding.

    Yeah, big (bibical) empathy gap. Not sure that is bad. Just shows a need to work together for commonsense understanding.

    Now let me go back to watching hour 18 of Ted Cruz blast healthcare reform-athon

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Empathy isn't always a good thing.

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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    what difference does it make if it empathy or sympathy if your goal is to help and that is what you do and the end result is the same it doesn't matter now does it

    it doesn't matter where you been unless your looking for an excuse what matters is where you are going
    If the end result were truly the same then it wouldn't matter if it were sympathy/empathy, but the end results between Repubs and Dems are different.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    also sympathy and empathy is a two way street how does the poor know how some one rich feels if that pool person has never been rich or how does a black man know what a write man feels or thinks because he never was write. how does a gay man know what a straight man is like if he never was straight so you cant use that as a one sided excuse like your implying

    see you want to use empathy so to cause others to bend to your ideology but wont do the same in return so to come to a compromise
    The whole point of empathy is that you can't literally know how a person feels but that you use logic and imagination to try to.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    I would like for you to step out of your shoes and do a little POV as you call it. I want you to show some empathy for this scenario
    You have this business owner that stays up late at night worrying if he made the right decision on some new contract knowing his and his employee future depends on that decision to be the correct one.
    lets say after he makes his car payment on two cars, his house payment, braces on his kids teeth, putting money away for the kids college fund and retirement not relying on the government for any of it and pays close to 50% of his income in taxes. is in line at the grocery store with a basket full of hamburger and not the steaks he wanted so not to dip into the kids college fond and the person in front of him has the basket full of steaks and whips out a snap card to pay for it. why don't you show A little empathy in that situation

    republicans do show empathy but they show it to every one not just to the ones you want to label as oppressed
    Listen, if you were that person and you practiced empathy, you might realize that a poor person who had no cars, no house, no health care, no education for their kids, and no savings would love to be in your position. That's how empathy works: you get to see their side of the picture and you get perspective about your own side.

    The argument that people are living rich off of food stamps because of this straw man that buys lobster/steak/caviar in front of the struggling middle class man is a convenient way of avoiding empathy. Have people abused the system? Of course, any system has abuse. Your reasoning is that because some people abuse it, nobody deserves that program. You have displayed the lack of empathy towards the truly needy that I am trying to illustrate.
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    Re: Is There an Empathy Gap Between Democrats and Republicans?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    If the end result were truly the same then it wouldn't matter if it were sympathy/empathy, but the end results between Repubs and Dems are different.



    The whole point of empathy is that you can't literally know how a person feels but that you use logic and imagination to try to.



    Listen, if you were that person and you practiced empathy, you might realize that a poor person who had no cars, no house, no health care, no education for their kids, and no savings would love to be in your position. That's how empathy works: you get to see their side of the picture and you get perspective about your own side.

    The argument that people are living rich off of food stamps because of this straw man that buys lobster/steak/caviar in front of the struggling middle class man is a convenient way of avoiding empathy. Have people abused the system? Of course, any system has abuse. Your reasoning is that because some people abuse it, nobody deserves that program. You have displayed the lack of empathy towards the truly needy that I am trying to illustrate.
    see you want to use empathy so to cause others to bend to your ideology but wont do the same in return so to come to a compromise

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