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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    we had a rino in 2008 fail
    we had a rino in 2012 fail
    so we need one in 2016? fail
    definition of insanity is keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results
    2008 was a heavily Democratic year nationally and 2012 was a moderately Democratic one. I doubt any Republican would've done remarkably better than McCain or Romney. Huntsman isn't a RINO anyway.
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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    because you are a liberal so of coarse you would vote for a rino

    the biggest problem with the republican party is they have to many big government democrats in it
    the biggest problem is that 80 years of welfare socialism has created a huge dependent class and many republicans correctly fear that if you make the addicts face cold turkey they are going to be as pissed as a smack junkie told he's gonna have to do without. The way to do things is to get GOP presidents who can appoint judges who actually care and then gradually cut down on the welfare state law by law



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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the biggest problem is that 80 years of welfare socialism has created a huge dependent class and many republicans correctly fear that if you make the addicts face cold turkey they are going to be as pissed as a smack junkie told he's gonna have to do without. The way to do things is to get GOP presidents who can appoint judges who actually care and then gradually cut down on the welfare state law by law
    It'll take just as long to wean off of the dependency as it was to get people addicted. In a perfect world 80% of those dependencies can go away. My fear isn't so much about the dependent class but that there can be no way to remove the dependency without killing the entire country, it's economy... pretty much everything and having to start over. In other words, the cancer (dependency) has grown so big, removing it will kill the patient so you have to let it die and try again with something else.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Huntsman isn't a RINO anyway.
    And Anna Nicole Smith married for love

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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It'll take just as long to wean off of the dependency as it was to get people addicted. In a perfect world 80% of those dependencies can go away. My fear isn't so much about the dependent class but that there can be no way to remove the dependency without killing the entire country, it's economy... pretty much everything and having to start over. In other words, the cancer (dependency) has grown so big, removing it will kill the patient so you have to let it die and try again with something else.
    One of Scalia's most well regarded former law clerks explained this as why he (like his former boss) are "faint hearted originalists"



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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    And Anna Nicole Smith married for love
    How many RINO's get an A from the Cato Institute on Tax Policy? Or have 80%+ approval in Utah? Look at his actual positions on the issues and not just the way that both the left and the right media have tried to portray him.
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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It'll take just as long to wean off of the dependency as it was to get people addicted. In a perfect world 80% of those dependencies can go away. My fear isn't so much about the dependent class but that there can be no way to remove the dependency without killing the entire country, it's economy... pretty much everything and having to start over. In other words, the cancer (dependency) has grown so big, removing it will kill the patient so you have to let it die and try again with something else.
    only cure I see is the red states to secede from the union and start anew send the parasites to the blue states for free if they resist the reform

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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    How many RINO's get an A from the Cato Institute on Tax Policy? Or have 80%+ approval in Utah? Look at his actual positions on the issues and not just the way that both the left and the right media have tried to portray him.
    well here is the problem

    far lefties like him and a "slightly conservative" poster is his biggest fan

    Hmmmm



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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well here is the problem

    far lefties like him and a "slightly conservative" poster is his biggest fan

    Hmmmm
    That's because of the ****ty campaign he ran last year as well as the fact both the left and the right had strong incentives to characterize him as a liberal. But actually look at his policies. They aren't.
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    Re: Huntsman 2016?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    How many RINO's get an A from the Cato Institute on Tax Policy? Or have 80%+ approval in Utah? Look at his actual positions on the issues and not just the way that both the left and the right media have tried to portray him.

    HUNTSMAN: “Right now, this country is crying out for a sensible middle ground. This is a center-right country; I am a center-right candidate. Right now, we’ve got people on the fringes.”

    As governor Huntsman promoted programs intended to reduce carbon emissions, including the Western Climate Initiative, which included six states and three Canadian provinces, had a cap-a-trade provision and encouraged fuel-efficient vehicles, renewable energy use and energy conservation. He also appeared in an advertisement sponsored by Environmental Defense, where he said, “Now it’s time for Congress to act by capping greenhouse-gas pollution.”

    threatened to veto a measure repealing in-state college tuition for the children of illegal immigrants

    In 2007, when asked about a healthcare mandate, Huntsman said, “I’m comfortable with a requirement – you can call it whatever you want, but at some point we’re going to have to get serious about how we deal with this issue”.

    sounds like a democrat to me

    and the litmus test for all republicans if they are a rino or not is if libeals like SlyFox696 would vote for him
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