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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Losing your vote if on welfare would be a good inducement to get off welfare don't you think?
    I think that for many people it isn't a CHOICE.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Actually that is precisely the topic. If you don't pay fed taxes maybe you shouldn't vote in fed elections. That is in keeping with the founders original intent.
    Are you positive that was their intent? Did they intend property owners because they were property owners, or did they intend property owners because property owners were the primary taxpayers supporting the government?

    If the latter, which I suspect is the case... in part because "no taxation without representation" was a popular mantra of the day... then the concept expanded every time the federal government instituted a new tax.



    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Paying fed tax should be part of deciding who can vote in fed elections. In my "perfect vote" world if you are in the military you get the vote even if under 21. Serving your country is the ultimate rite of passage that should guarantee the ultimate right to vote.
    If you buy a gallon of gasoline, you've paid federal tax. There you go.



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    “When the people find that they can vote themselves money,that will herald the end of the republic.” - Benjamin Franklin

    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." - unknown

    If you are receiving welfare, unemployment, food-stamps, an Obama phone, etc. then you don’t get to vote.

    People receiving social security, Medicare and veteran benefits are exempt from this.
    Why unemployment? Even though submitted by your previous employer(s), it was still a part of the cost of your overall compensation. Hence, you did pay into it yourself.

    Why (automatically) food stamps? For many it's merely a supplement for people who have low-paying jobs and still otherwise pay taxes.



    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Losing your vote if on welfare would be a good inducement to get off welfare don't you think?
    No. To be honest, I'd bet the percentage of people on welfare who vote is fairly small.
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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The average American citizen, even if they don't pay a net loss to income tax, still pays social security tax, sales tax, excise taxes, sin taxes, gasoline taxes, taxes on telecommunications, and all sorts of other ones. Unwieldly? Yeah. Of course. But the notion that anyone who isn't paying income tax, or doesn't own property, is getting a "free ride" is moronic to the Nth degree.
    really, what do you call a kid that mooches off his parents and the government until he/she is 30? responsible?

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Now that I think of it, a lot of you would probably fit the bill of belonging to a fringe group since you want to remove rights from citizens.
    We already do suspend or terminate rights of adult citizens when they prove (legally) to be incapable of managing their own adult affairs. They're assigned public guardians who take over their adult decision-making authority.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    We already do suspend or terminate rights of adult citizens when they prove (legally) to be incapable of managing their own adult affairs. They're assigned public guardians who take over their adult decision-making authority.
    That is done on a case by case basis.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is an astounding thing to claim. How can anyone live in our society without paying some tax when most simple purchases are subject to sales taxes?
    Income taxes?

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is done on a case by case basis.
    So is the examination of eligibility for welfare and related public assistance programs.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think that for many people it isn't a CHOICE.
    For most people staying on welfare long term is indeed a choice and if they lost the right to vote it may be a good nudge to seek gainful employment.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Income taxes?
    Well there are entire states where there is no state income tax. Should those people have their rights stripped from them too?

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