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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In your system, only if you give up your ability to vote as well.
    I would gladly give up my vote not to be taxed...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    IT'S NOT ABOUT BELIEFS and certainly about suffrage...
    It's about beliefs. You believe their behavior needs to change and that its bad for America. I think you're generally right, but its still your belief and they disagree.
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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    With the percentage continually rising for those receiving benefits, the problem should be obvious...
    Yes, too bad that problem has nothing to do with people allegedly choosing not to work.

    The big upcoming increase in in entitlement spending is for senior citizens. Since you missed it, the Baby Boomers are on their way to retirement, and they are collecting Social Security (which they've paid into) and Medicare. There are fewer people of younger ages who are able to generate tax revenue to pay for their benefits.



    This has nothing to do with people who get *cough* BIPARTISAN tax breaks on their income taxes (and not their payroll taxes).

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    It's about beliefs. You believe their behavior needs to change and that its bad for America. I think you're generally right, but its still your belief and they disagree.
    You're correct, it is my opinion (belief) just as anything else you or I might post on a political website...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I would gladly give up my vote not to be taxed...
    Wow, that is some statement. You would sell out your franchise, your right.....just so you would not have to pay your part to be in this government.

    What a disgusting freeloader position.
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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Yes, too bad that problem has nothing to do with people allegedly choosing not to work.

    The big upcoming increase in in entitlement spending is for senior citizens. Since you missed it, the Baby Boomers are on their way to retirement, and they are collecting Social Security (which they've paid into) and Medicare. There are fewer people of younger ages who are able to generate tax revenue to pay for their benefits.



    This has nothing to do with people who get *cough* BIPARTISAN tax breaks on their income taxes (and not their payroll taxes).
    Gawd, you're so ignorant of this discussion, it's pathetic...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    It's about the way they are likely to vote. They vote roughly the same way concerned with their interests as other groups. As far as I'm concerned they've earned it as much as anyone. I'd like to limit it to only those who put the nations best interests over their own, but there's no practical way to do that.
    How about, anyone who holds foreign investments loses the right to vote? Anyone who spends significant time overseas in a non-military capacity? Any business owner with a significant number of overseas employees? Anyone who offshores a specific number of jobs? Anyone who trades significantly in foreign goods? That plus literacy tests, entitlement tests and other hokum floating in this thread should pretty much limit voting to a handful of true, self-sufficient patriots. :p

    Or, maybe we can just let every citizen vote.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You're correct, it is my opinion (belief) just as anything else you or I might post on a political website...
    Well it is your belief that their political beliefs are wrong and need to be changed. The basis for your belief in their disenfranchisement is your rejection of their political views. We shouldn't be taking away suffrage based on that.
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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Gawd, you're so ignorant of this discussion, it's pathetic...
    You cited the increase in people receiving benefits. A big chunk of that increase is people retiring.

    Not to mention that the increase in, for example, food stamp eligibility dates back to everyone's favorite "compassionate conservative," Bush 43. The big temporary increase in unemployment is due to -- wait for it -- a massive recession. Or do you genuinely believe that a large group of Americans all decided not to work, so they could collect that sweet $250/month in food stamps?

    I'm not missing anything.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Well it is your belief that their political beliefs are wrong and need to be changed. The basis for your belief in their disenfranchisement is your rejection of their political views. We shouldn't be taking away suffrage based on that.
    How many times is it necessary that it would be about behavior, not beliefs? Is this concept really that hard? You have seemed to agree in previous posts...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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