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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee.com View Post
    "Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL: All US citizens have the RIGHT to vote."



    Corporate bigwigs contributing to Republican candidates in the hope that those candidates will give those bigwigs tax breaks are leeches, and thus, by this guy's definition, should not have the right to vote.

    Discuss.
    Demonrats get more corporate money... Election funds, are a different story.

    The tax system itself is a different thread. This one is in my view, shortsighted in asking if we should limit the federal vote to land owners. I didn't vote on the simple YES or NO, and already I explained why.

    Look at the politicians poor people general vote for. Those promising to take more money away from the rich, and give to them. Those promising for a larger bureaucracy. Look at who the rich are inclined to vote for. Those promising to reduce their redistribution of wealth to the leeches. Look at who the self proclaimed Tea party types vote for. those advocating a smaller government and less redistribution of wealth.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Actually, we ran out of money long ago. We just haven't run out of our grandchildren's money yet.
    You're wrong. We have NOT run out of money. The money is available. All we have to do is invade the Cayman Islands and take over their banks.

    Or have an IRS with some teeth, that takes on the true tax cheats, instead of going after people like Wesley Snipes.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    a failed op that got completely destroyed, nothign new to see here.
    THis question was so stupid nobody even felt like spamming the "private" poll

    SO does anybody have any logical reason why we should ever do this in 2013? one hasnt been presented yet.
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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Demonrats get more corporate money... Election funds, are a different story.

    The tax system itself is a different thread. This one is in my view, shortsighted in asking if we should limit the federal vote to land owners. I didn't vote on the simple YES or NO, and already I explained why.

    Look at the politicians poor people general vote for. Those promising to take more money away from the rich, and give to them. Those promising for a larger bureaucracy. Look at who the rich are inclined to vote for. Those promising to reduce their redistribution of wealth to the leeches. Look at who the self proclaimed Tea party types vote for. those advocating a smaller government and less redistribution of wealth.
    The rich have been the leeches since 1980. And you people didn't seem to mind "big government" when it was Tricky Dick, Ronnie, Poppy and Dubya running it.

    I also notice that the truly psychotic on the right are no longer calling themselves "conservatives" as in the heyday of Limbaugh and Gingrich. They now call themselves "libertarians."

    Well, to paraphrase George Carlin -- who was a hell of a lot closer to being a true libertarian than you are -- If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do libertarians eat? Liberties.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When George Washington was elected only 6% of the population could vote because you had to be a white male property owner over the age of 21. It wasn't until 1856 that the vote was expanded to include all white men. In 1868 black men got the vote and finally in 1920 women got the right to vote . It wasn't until 1972 that the voting age was lowered to 18 and the steady dumbing down of the voter pool was complete. Before people start screaming racist and misogynist that is not my point here. I'm fine with all races and women voting but we never should have dropped the property owner requirement and never should have lowered the voting age to 18. When you have reached a point in your life where you own property you have demonstrated the ability to participate in this society in a contributing way but the main thing is you have skin in the game. At this point you want America to be a stable functioning country that is prosperous and has an effective economy where your hard work will be rewarded and safe guarded. Kids and non property owners are going to vote on and for different issues than they will or would when they are a participating member of our economy and should not be allowed to vote until they do more than hang around the fringes. The extreme example of this is people on welfare voting and kids in school who have never had a job in their lives. These people have nothing to lose and everything to gain by voting against a thriving economy and for give away programs to benefit them and will vote in their own self interest instead of considering what is best for the country at large. IMO we should reinstate the original voting requirement of being a property owner.
    How anachronistic. If we're going to be a plutocratic democracy we should at least remember that a huge class of upper middle class and upper class individuals do not own sizable property anymore and sometimes none at all.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you own property you own part of America and you want America to succeed. If you don't own property you are far more likely to vote for what is in your best interest instead of what is in America's best interest.
    What about the I-Banker who rents a Manhattan condo and owns sizable stock in US companies. I'd wager he has more of a stake in this country than you and your property do.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Look at the politicians poor people general vote for. Those promising to take more money away from the rich, and give to them. Those promising for a larger bureaucracy. Look at who the rich are inclined to vote for. Those promising to reduce their redistribution of wealth to the leeches. Look at who the self proclaimed Tea party types vote for. those advocating a smaller government and less redistribution of wealth.
    I bet you really believe that, too.

    No, the rich vote for those who will allow them to take as much from the poor as they can, in insidious ways, if deemed appropriate. That's no less voting one's own interest, so spare us the noble-sounding empty rhetoric.

    And you're supremely gullible if you actually believe that the so-called Tea Partiers would come through with their smaller government pledges. The Reps and the Conservatives have abandoned that ideal in practice at least two decades ago. (It boggles the brain cells that some people actually still fall for it.)
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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee.com
    The rich have been the leeches since 1980.
    Who?


    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee.com
    And you people didn't seem to mind "big government" when it was Tricky Dick, Ronnie, Poppy and Dubya running it.
    Well, Tricky Dicky was the last president to sign a budget into law that actually lowered the national debt. You fail there.

    Ronald Raygun was fighting a cold war, and decisively won. The CCCP is no more. I have little to say good about the pair of Bush's, but the both did engage in real wars. They both had too many RINO genes for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee.com
    I also notice that the truly psychotic on the right are no longer calling themselves "conservatives" as in the heyday of Limbaugh and Gingrich. They now call themselves "libertarians."
    maybe your labels don't properly apply? Maybe you don't understand these people? How valid are your assumptions?


    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee.com
    Well, to paraphrase George Carlin -- who was a hell of a lot closer to being a true libertarian than you are -- If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do libertarians eat? Liberties.
    Bad joke.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I bet you really believe that, too.

    No, the rich vote for those who will allow them to take as much from the poor as they can, in insidious ways, if deemed appropriate. That's no less voting one's own interest, so spare us the noble-sounding empty rhetoric.

    And you're supremely gullible if you actually believe that the so-called Tea Partiers would come through with their smaller government pledges. The Reps and the Conservatives have abandoned that ideal in practice at least two decades ago. (It boggles the brain cells that some people actually still fall for it.)
    Please explain that.

    It simply does not compute. I don't see anything immoral, wanting to have ones taxes reduced. I find it very offensive and immoral for people demanding government give them more of other people's money.

    Are these "rich" asking the government to take "poor" people's money?

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When George Washington was elected only 6% of the population could vote because you had to be a white male property owner over the age of 21. It wasn't until 1856 that the vote was expanded to include all white men. In 1868 black men got the vote and finally in 1920 women got the right to vote . It wasn't until 1972 that the voting age was lowered to 18 and the steady dumbing down of the voter pool was complete. Before people start screaming racist and misogynist that is not my point here. I'm fine with all races and women voting but we never should have dropped the property owner requirement and never should have lowered the voting age to 18. When you have reached a point in your life where you own property you have demonstrated the ability to participate in this society in a contributing way but the main thing is you have skin in the game. At this point you want America to be a stable functioning country that is prosperous and has an effective economy where your hard work will be rewarded and safe guarded. Kids and non property owners are going to vote on and for different issues than they will or would when they are a participating member of our economy and should not be allowed to vote until they do more than hang around the fringes. The extreme example of this is people on welfare voting and kids in school who have never had a job in their lives. These people have nothing to lose and everything to gain by voting against a thriving economy and for give away programs to benefit them and will vote in their own self interest instead of considering what is best for the country at large. IMO we should reinstate the original voting requirement of being a property owner.

    In your message you declare that blacks and women are "dumb."

    If you have anything of your life history demonstrating property owning men are smarter than "blacks" and "women" - do tell us all what that is.
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