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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    1776 no farther.
    So you want to give back all the land America has except for the original 13 Colonies? Didn't think that one through did you.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    This whole idea is utterly ****ing braindead. You know what group in America doesn't own land very often? Soldiers who live on military bases.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    So you want to give back all the land America has except for the original 13 Colonies? Didn't think that one through did you.
    I want to go back to common sense which is something our founders had in abundance and is very rare today as your post proves nicely.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you are on welfare will you vote for welfare reform?
    Y'u betcha.....
    I would, BUT reform and improvement NOT elimination .....
    And, yes, I am sure that there are children(adults of all ages) who would just vote for more.....based on greed , not merit....we should take the "good" with the "bad" .

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    This whole idea is utterly ****ing braindead. You know what group in America doesn't own land very often? Soldiers who live on military bases.
    Good point, a soldier exemption would be called for.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    You betcha.....
    I would, BUT reform and improvement NOT elimination .....
    And, yes, I am sure that there are children(adults of all ages) who would just vote for more.....based on greed , not merit....we should take the "good" with the "bad" .
    If you were on welfare you would vote for more welfare.

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Good point, a soldier exemption would be called for.
    So when you get discharged you no longer can vote unless you are one of the high class soldiers that get paid enough to own real property?

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Anyway I have to get to work and thank you to the few people that debated this topic intelligently. The rest of you that went ballistic and threw temper tantrums reinforce my opinion in the OP. You react emotionally and are not property owners because you have made poor decisions for yourselves and IMO you should not be allowed to make poor decisions for America. GET A JOB!

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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When George Washington was elected only 6% of the population could vote because you had to be a white male property owner over the age of 21. It wasn't until 1856 that the vote was expanded to include all white men. In 1868 black men got the vote and finally in 1920 women got the right to vote . It wasn't until 1972 that the voting age was lowered to 18 and the steady dumbing down of the voter pool was complete. Before people start screaming racist and misogynist that is not my point here. I'm fine with all races and women voting but we never should have dropped the property owner requirement and never should have lowered the voting age to 18. When you have reached a point in your life where you own property you have demonstrated the ability to participate in this society in a contributing way but the main thing is you have skin in the game. At this point you want America to be a stable functioning country that is prosperous and has an effective economy where your hard work will be rewarded and safe guarded. Kids and non property owners are going to vote on and for different issues than they will or would when they are a participating member of our economy and should not be allowed to vote until they do more than hang around the fringes. The extreme example of this is people on welfare voting and kids in school who have never had a job in their lives. These people have nothing to lose and everything to gain by voting against a thriving economy and for give away programs to benefit them and will vote in their own self interest instead of considering what is best for the country at large. IMO we should reinstate the original voting requirement of being a property owner.
    At the risk of being labeled a grammar-nazi, remember... paragraphs are your friend. Just sayin'.

    Anyway, ummm... no.

    1) The property ownership rule was not because they owned property and were thus deemed responsible. It was because most taxes were collected via property taxes. That has changed. Now, taxes are collected via a myriad of ways, primarily the income tax, but also including sales taxes, (purposely) hidden taxes in product prices, etc. In effect, we are ALL taxpayers. As taxpayers, we all have a vested interest in the doings of our government. Everybody, bar none, has skin in the game. Whether we like it or not.

    2) The lowering of age to 18 has been negligible. Most people between 18 and 21 don't care and thus don't vote.

    3) Today, society has changed. Many fine and intelligent people choose to not own property. Yet they are stable and capable people nonetheless. On the flip side, I know morons who have inherited property. Property ownership doesn't mean anything anymore as far as this issue goes. Really, it is my belief that the people who clamor for it now... and probably even those who enforced it back then... don't really give a rat's behind about stable people voting, they just want to try and artificially limit the voting rolls to people that are more likely to vote like themselves.

    4) The only thing that holds us back from making better choices in elections is voter apathy and naivete, and that infection spreads across all demographics. Too many homeowners and renters alike place more importance on Entertainment Tonight than the next election.
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    Re: Only property owners should vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Good point, a soldier exemption would be called for.
    Once you start issuing exemptions, you defeat your entire premise.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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