View Poll Results: Which US Wars Were Justifiable When the US Entered Them?

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  • Iraq War

    13 20.00%
  • Afghanistan War

    41 63.08%
  • Gulf War

    33 50.77%
  • Vietnam War

    12 18.46%
  • Korean War

    31 47.69%
  • WWII

    62 95.38%
  • WWI

    38 58.46%
  • Spanish American War

    12 18.46%
  • USCW: The South Seceding From the Union

    20 30.77%
  • USCW: The Union Invading the South

    43 66.15%
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Thread: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    For sure, but they could not take any more from the European theater to send to the Eastern front. Had they been able to, It very well may had turned out different.
    I dont minimize the efforts of the Russians in WWII, but to say "they won the war" is just not all true.
    The allies let them take Berlin, because the allies knew what hell they would bring with them. And they did. German soldiers were fighting their way out of Berlin to surrender to US troops.
    No doubt it was a team effort. German war planners had long feared a two-front war even before WWI, which is why Hitler planned to take control of Western Europe before turning on Russia. In the end, though, most Germans were horrified by the revenge of the Russians, which is why they were racing to surrender to the Western allies. In fact, some of most delusional of them wanted the US and UK to join forces with Germany against Russia.

    When it came to taking Berlin, Eisenhower decided to let Russia do the job, figuring it better to let them have the glory than to allow more Americans to die when the war was basically over.

    I appreciate American valor too, but I have to accept history's judgment. I give the US full credit for beating Japan.
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Bush Sr, not really a Sr, had no adventure in Iraq. He stopped our troops at the Kuwait Border as the Iraq army retreated.
    Sorry, my mistake.
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    For the purpose of this poll, the question is, at the time the US entered into war, was it justifiable to do so, both in its time and in hindsight.
    The Gulf War and the Iraq war can actually be considered different phases of the same war as US troops were never fully disengaged between the two.
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    The Gulf War and the Iraq war can actually be considered different phases of the same war as US troops were never fully disengaged between the two.
    Yes, and no. That history is fascinating. The Gulf War achieved its stated objectives, something the US usually has trouble with, by removing Saddam's forces from Kuwait. Many of the military planners, including Colin Powell, were aware of the hazards of carrying the war into Iraq. Still, the no-fly-zones, intermittent bombing campaigns, and weapons inspections all came after the Gulf War ended and before the second war. It's amazing how well those worked to defang Saddam, but the militant and paranoid neo-cons were too delusional to realize it and were convinced he was as great a danger as ever.
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Bush Sr, not really a Sr, had no adventure in Iraq. He stopped our troops at the Kuwait Border as the Iraq army retreated.
    I see that military history isn't your forte. The fact of the matter is that Bush Sr. invaded Iraq with over 140,000 troops in 1991 including the 1st and 24th infantry divisions, the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions, the 1st and 3rd Armored divisions, etc, etc... And that's just the troops under General Franks' command.
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Why is not NATO-Serbian throughout the 90's wars there? It was USA lead campaign also!
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Why is not NATO-Serbian throughout the 90's wars there? It was USA lead campaign also!
    Just 'cuase.
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Just 'cuase.
    What! Is this a joke?

    Who asked you? I was addressing Aberrant, the thread's author?!
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    Re: Which US Wars Were Justifiable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    I see that military history isn't your forte. The fact of the matter is that Bush Sr. invaded Iraq with over 140,000 troops in 1991 including the 1st and 24th infantry divisions, the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions, the 1st and 3rd Armored divisions, etc, etc... And that's just the troops under General Franks' command.
    You are correct, I should have stated that the UN sanction was to go remove Iraq from Kuwait. Not so much to invade Iraq after their retreat.
    Hence Saddams attemted assasination attempt on Bush.

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