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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    This is getting idiotic. You seem unable to understand that the NFL organization makes no profits. The teams make profits (9b) and pay taxes on it.
    allocate every penny.

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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    allocate every penny.
    They do.

    Have you managed to understand that the NFL org and NFL teams are different entities?

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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Except there is no valid competition for profit when speaking of non-profits like this. It is a failed argument. A non-profit does not have to find the best people for their benefit. They only need someone good enough to efficiently run their operations.
    There's a huge non-profit sector out there that I'm learning few people understand. Non-profit hospitals need top executives who they are the same people recuited by major for profit companies including insurance companies, pharmacutacal firms, etc. The United Way has a budget of more than most for profit businesses and needs leadership that knows both how to keep that money coming in and how to direct it to the needs that are making the best use of it. Youth With a Mission operates a fleet of cruise ships that have been converted into floating hospitals providing healthcare to under served people around the the world. Lives are in the balance. You can't hire the local elementary school PTA president to run these non-profit organizations if they are to be successful. You need people of expertise in major facilities healthcare, international law, corporate leadership, maritime law, etc. If you think the non-profit sector is just just knowing how to run a limonade stand to buy socks for the homeless you honestly don't understand the sector.
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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    There's a huge non-profit sector out there that I'm learning few people understand. Non-profit hospitals need top executives who they are the same people recuited by major for profit companies including insurance companies, pharmacutacal firms, etc. The United Way has a budget of more than most for profit businesses and needs leadership that knows both how to keep that money coming in and how to direct it to the needs that are making the best use of it. Youth With a Mission operates a fleet of cruise ships that have been converted into floating hospitals providing healthcare to under served people around the the world. Lives are in the balance. You can't hire the local elementary school PTA president to run these non-profit organizations if they are to be successful. You need people of expertise in major facilities healthcare, international law, corporate leadership, maritime law, etc. If you think the non-profit sector is just just knowing how to run a limonade stand to buy socks for the homeless you honestly don't understand the sector.
    Then perhaps it is just the NFL that should be looked at. Honestly though, if you are claiming non-profit status or working for a non-profit, you should not expect to be paid high dollars, no matter how much someone may say they need you. It is wrong to believe otherwise. If these execs are making more than most for-profit firms, then the place really isn't non-profit at all, but rather for the profit of those in the top positions.
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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the American Dairy Association called, they asked me to tell you to stop pretending to know more then you do.
    Actually I know exactly what I am talking about. The American Dairy Association exists to serve the entire dairy industry, which meets the requirements for a non profit. NFL does not promote the entire industry, they are interested in their own brand. The IRS guidelines are clear about the qualifications for can be considered a business league and the NFL doesn't meet it.

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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Actually I know exactly what I am talking about. The American Dairy Association exists to serve the entire dairy industry, which meets the requirements for a non profit. NFL does not promote the entire industry, they are interested in their own brand. The IRS guidelines are clear about the qualifications for can be considered a business league and the NFL doesn't meet it.
    the NFL also has rules that look out for college football, high school football, etc. It functions very much like the ADA.

    you are just making things up as you go.

    here is an article discussing money the nfl spends to assist children, making your previous claims a load of crap.

    http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com...youth-football
    Last edited by ARealConservative; 09-25-13 at 11:34 AM.

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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Actually I know exactly what I am talking about. The American Dairy Association exists to serve the entire dairy industry, which meets the requirements for a non profit. NFL does not promote the entire industry, they are interested in their own brand. The IRS guidelines are clear about the qualifications for can be considered a business league and the NFL doesn't meet it.
    the NFL also has rules that look out for college football, high school football, etc. It functions very much like the ADA.

    you are just making things up as you go.

    here is an article discussing money the nfl spends to assist children, making your previous claims a load of crap.

    http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com...youth-football
    No, not really. If a new professional football league starts up... as has happened in the past... the NFL would not support them, even if the new league wanted them to... as has also happened in the past. Individual teams cannot simply start and gain acceptance into the NFL. The NFL is closed and exclusive. Any help they give high schools and college is because it helps them also.

    If a new dairy starts up, the dairy association would be open to supporting the new dairy.

    Note: Professional football mergers of the past were the result of economic necessity, not some grand noble acceptance on the NFL's part. The NFL still tried to drive each and every entity out of business first.
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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    No, not really. If a new professional football league starts up... as has happened in the past... the NFL would not support them, even if the new league wanted them to... as has also happened in the past. Individual teams cannot simply start and gain acceptance into the NFL. The NFL is closed and exclusive. Any help they give high schools and college is because it helps them also.
    Of course everything they do is designed to help professional football.

    In the infamous USFL vs NFL lawsuit, the NFL was not found guilty of attempting to harm the USFL, they were found guilty of being a monopoly though.

    If a new dairy starts up, the dairy association would be open to supporting the new dairy.
    If a new pro league starts up, it is aided by all the money the NFL spends on children’s athletics.

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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Of course everything they do is designed to help professional football.

    In the infamous USFL vs NFL lawsuit, the NFL was not found guilty of attempting to harm the USFL, they were found guilty of being a monopoly though.
    Not professional football in an inclusive sense, *their* professional football.


    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    If a new pro league starts up, it is aided by all the money the NFL spends on children’s athletics.
    Did you actually keep a straight face when typing that?

    I nominate that sentence for Stretch of the Day. Seriously, your point would have been much stronger had you just left that last sentence out.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should Congress revoke the NFL's tax exempt status?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the NFL also has rules that look out for college football, high school football, etc. It functions very much like the ADA.

    you are just making things up as you go.

    here is an article discussing money the nfl spends to assist children, making your previous claims a load of crap.

    http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com...youth-football
    Meaningless token gestures count for nothing. If the NFL was truly a trade organization, they would have put their full support behind the XFL for instance.

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