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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That's reasonable, but that's also a very different position than the one you took earlier. Just saying.
    It's actually not very different all. It's the same opinion enlarged.

    Everything I said is perfectly valid.

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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Sentient life is fine and dandy, but it's based on complex genetics.

    Did you ever get that tingling feeling when looking at someone that you two would be great together? Those are your genes "speaking". Your subconscious processes everything you observe in a person, even if your conscious mind can't analyze everything or doesn't get, the 90% of your brain that works behind the curtains does.

    Now of course. Genes aren't the be all end all of the complex set of rules that make us who we are and make us behave the way we do and feel what we do and think what we do. But if we do start getting into all those things we won't finish till next easter.



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    Of course.
    It's like the Parkinsons' gene or Huntings or whatever other genetic diseases people have. Just because you have that gene, doesn't mean it will ever trigger or that it will control your life.

    As I said just above: Genes aren't the be all end all of the complex set of rules that make us who we are and make us behave the way we do and feel what we do and think what we do
    I dunno bro.



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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I dunno bro.

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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    LMAO, you really are a Trekie!
    Oh, I got into Star Trek with TNG, and liked DS9 as well. Not a big fan of the original, and hated Voyager.

    The Terra Prime episodes were great and sad. They actually brought to light that it could have been difficult, at least at one time, for aliens and humans to have a child and take actual genetic manipulation to accomplish. But given that we have genetic manipulation now, then it isn't too difficult to believe that we could do it if that was an issue with any sentient, humanoid aliens we did meet in the future. It wouldn't be completely impossible.

    But I love sci-fi/fantasy stuff. Even as a child, I watched Alien Nation with my mom. I liked that show, despite how dark it could be (it had sci-fi, and my other fav show type, cop drama in one).
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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

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    Who the hell are we to be telling others what they can do and can not do ??????????
    As long as no-one suffers, particularly the children............
    which makes me think a little.......
    The we includes our government...
    Of course, churches should NOT be forced to do this...

    The option "not OK at all" , this IMO, removes the thought process , is too absolute...
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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Okay, so I did ask this in another thread and it seems like a pretty interesting topic to discuss with allusions to how we view marriage.

    So, if we found out that there are sentient aliens out there who come to Earth for whatever reasons, would it be okay for them to marry humans legally and what restrictions would you put on them and why.

    Trekkies can look at as a Vulcan/human marriage. Or perhaps you prefer Alien Nation point of view, where they have no choice but to be here (since they crashed) and have become citizens themselves of our countries.

    Would you insist they be citizens of the country? Would you insist on male/female pairings only? Would you insist they be able to procreate with us? Would you push to make all such relationships illegal?

    And for all those who don't believe in aliens, either put aside your disbelief and pretend, or don't comment. The assumption is stated that there are sentient aliens as part of the thread idea and is necessary for progression of the thread.
    The issue would honestly strike me as being about on par with bestiality, or something similar. It's highly unlikely that an alien organism would even possess the physical features human beings find attractive (and vice versa), so I imagine that normal people probably wouldn't be lining up to jump its bones anyway.

    However, where those rare perverted souls who inevitably would be interested in such liaisons are concerned, I don't see a particular problem with it.

    It would be a pointless union (given the fact that reproduction would almost certainly be physically impossible), and I get the definite impression that most religions would probably frown upon the practice. However, given the fact that both parties seem to be able to give informed consent, there wouldn't be much of anything people could do to prevent such relationships from occurring on a legal basis.

    I wouldn't recognize it as a real "marriage" per se, but I wouldn't have any problem with granting such couples the legal rights and protections afforded to most other unions (with the possible exception of adoption, of course).

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Were this day ever to come it would make the current gay marriage debate a foot note in history. I think the issue would go well beyond marriage and be about procreation itself. This would change the human race and create an entirely now species and the genetic implications of this as far as new diseases or syndromes would have to be studied for years. More importantly it would run the risk of creating whole new reasons for prejudice and race superiority issues. I could see riots and even wars over the issue.
    Not quite. The chances that a human being and an alien organism from a completely different biosphere would even possess mutually compatible genitalia, let alone be able to successfully reproduce using natural means, are slim to none.

    You'd frankly have a better chance of getting a flower pregnant, if for no other reason than that the flower and yourself happen to have evolved on the same planet.
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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    LOL, as long as all parties involved are consenting adults I honestly don't give a fat flying fig who marries who... period!

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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Were this day ever to come it would make the current gay marriage debate a foot note in history. I think the issue would go well beyond marriage and be about procreation itself. This would change the human race and create an entirely now species and the genetic implications of this as far as new diseases or syndromes would have to be studied for years. More importantly it would run the risk of creating whole new reasons for prejudice and race superiority issues. I could see riots and even wars over the issue.
    As a Mormon, I believe more literally than most other Christians that God created us in his image and likeness. I also believe that he has created other worlds. It stands to reason, then, that the people of these other worlds would also have been created after God's likeness and image, and would therefore be very similar to us, likely even being the same species. If this is truly the case, then there would be no issue with these aliens intermarrying and interbreeding with us.

    The definition of a species, by the way, is based on the ability of two organisms to sexually mate, and produce offspring who are capable of further mating and reproducing. There are many instances in which similar, but different species are able to mate and produce offspring, but those offspring are of limited fertility, if they are fertile at all.


    That aside, if the inhabitants of another world were not created by our God, in his own image, just as we were, then it is to be expected that they would be significantly different from us, almost certainly incapable of interbreeding with us, and there's a good chance that the parts wouldn't even fit.
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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Okay, so I did ask this in another thread and it seems like a pretty interesting topic to discuss with allusions to how we view marriage.

    So, if we found out that there are sentient aliens out there who come to Earth for whatever reasons, would it be okay for them to marry humans legally and what restrictions would you put on them and why.

    Trekkies can look at as a Vulcan/human marriage. Or perhaps you prefer Alien Nation point of view, where they have no choice but to be here (since they crashed) and have become citizens themselves of our countries.

    Would you insist they be citizens of the country? Would you insist on male/female pairings only? Would you insist they be able to procreate with us? Would you push to make all such relationships illegal?

    And for all those who don't believe in aliens, either put aside your disbelief and pretend, or don't comment. The assumption is stated that there are sentient aliens as part of the thread idea and is necessary for progression of the thread.
    Nope. In all likelihood if we discovered an alien species or if they discovered us, they would be on a totally different intelligence level than us. It might be like the difference between us and fish. There could never be any possibility of consent in that case. It would be like marrying a dog or having sex with a minor. Without having the intelligence to know what your relationship would entail, you could not have consent.
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    Re: Sentient alien - human marriages?

    Well this would have to actually happen before I can form a final opinion.
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