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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Because with the individual mandate, people HAVE to provide for their own healthcare - at least to the point they can afford it. Otherwise families go bankrupt trying to pay for health care that EVERYONE - including you - needs sooner or later.
    But the problem is, people like me will being paying for those who can't afford it. Up to now, I pay for my own insurance, and I'm happy with it. We're already paying for medicare and Medicaid, this will just be additional taxation for those of us who are paying through our noses.
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    With Obamacare basically a done deal we're now seeing these ads:



    But the insurance industry needs young people to sign up for coverage if they are going to be able to afford the sick people that sign up as well. By encouraging healthy people to opt out, aren't they in effect attempting to make the insurance companies go broke? If that's so, doesn't that seem pretty anti-business for the pro-business party?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/22/us...w.html?hp&_r=0

    The overarching goal is to persuade many of today’s 48 million uninsured to sign up for insurance on the new exchanges created by the law. Crucially, officials need to woo older, sicker people without insurance as well as younger, healthier people, whose payments effectively subsidize those who will end up using more health care...

    But even as Mr. Obama’s campaign accelerates, Republicans at all political levels are working against the law.

    The Republican National Committee has begun what it calls a monthlong awareness campaign, with a television booking operation to make sure that pundits opposed to the law are always available to counter its boosters...

    Other conservative groups are broadcasting television advertisements that urge people not to sign up for coverage under the health care law. Americans for Prosperity began broadcasting an ad last week featuring a cancer survivor who warns about the dangers of the law. It is the latest in a series of commercials featuring women criticizing the law.
    I'm a republican but do not speak for the GOP. Speaking for myself, I'm for the best healthcare for the public at the most affordable cost. I personally think health insurance in its present form reduces the availability of the best options for healthcare and increases costs. Good is better than nothing but I prefer best.

    The problem herein is getting people to consider options other than what is already the status quo. In my humble opinion healthcare insurace should be limited to short term policies when Americans travel overseas and for hospitals and doctor groups who under a no pre-existing conditions denial and no lifetime limits policy accept annual one flat price fits all dues health services memberships. Their health insurance under my proposal would essentially be a bankruptcy protection policy in case a patient(s) costs to treat are so high they have one big catastrophic policy to cover the hospial or dctor group.

    As I've learned in discussion boards on a wide variety of topics many if not most people simply put up a huge wall and resist anything that is not familiar regardless of how much sense it makes and how sucky things are in comparison on their side of the wall.

    My opinion of the GOP hacks: they will do almost anything and hurt almost anyone or industry if it means damaging the Obama administration. This includes their own credibility.
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    You do realize, if a family of two adults (parents) and 2 kids is paying for family coverage, that a family of two adults and 3 kids (one over 21 but under 26 on this insurance mandate) pays the same premium?

    So, exactly who is paying for the 26 year old again?
    I'll admit I don't have kids so don't know how much it goes up per kid. But if it's a fixed cost regardless of how many kids like it sounds like you're saying, than a 1-child family would offset a 3-child family no matter what age limit is set. It's always more or less averaged out when everyone is pooled together.
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Republicans voted against it. Try again.
    Ntl, the individual mandate was a Republican idea. The only reason they voted against it is because they wouldn't get the credit and to spite Obama.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    I'll admit I don't have kids so don't know how much it goes up per kid. But if it's a fixed cost regardless of how many kids like it sounds like you're saying, than a 1-child family would offset a 3-child family no matter what age limit is set. It's always more or less averaged out when everyone is pooled together.
    And therein lies the problem, eh?
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    They are living with their choices, why should the rest of us sit in the penalty box because of THEIR choices?
    That's mind-boggling how you describe a child with a preexisting condition as "living with their choice."

    To anyone ranting about keeping the government out of health care, realize it has been in health care the whole time. It was the government that set up incentives for employers to be the primary providers of health insurance, going the capitalist route rather than the socialist route of Europe.

    Now we have had nearly 75 years of experience with this system and we can see the defects. Huge costs, loss of insurance with loss of job, unequal costs for men and women, and people denied coverage for any reason. Obamacare is intended to address these problems for once.
    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I'm not forced to read or respond to your ****ty posts, either.
    It's nice not being forced into things, isn't it?

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    That's mind-boggling how you describe a child with a preexisting condition as "living with their choice."

    To anyone ranting about keeping the government out of health care, realize it has been in health care the whole time. It was the government that set up incentives for employers to be the primary providers of health insurance, going the capitalist route rather than the socialist route of Europe.

    Now we have had nearly 75 years of experience with this system and we can see the defects. Huge costs, loss of insurance with loss of job, unequal costs for men and women, and people denied coverage for any reason. Obamacare is intended to address these problems for once.
    show me where i said child liar? I did not read the rest after you started lying.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    show me where i said child liar? I did not read the rest after you started lying.
    When did I say you said "child liar"? I said "child with a preexisting condition 'living with their choice' ". Just read, fer chrisakes!
    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    When did I say you said "child liar"? I said "child with a preexisting condition 'living with their choice' ". Just read, fer chrisakes!
    which has nothing to do with what was being discussed, try keeping up

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