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  • No, this has nothing to do with the insurance companies, they just got in the way

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    That is human nature, NOT really "poor" behavour...And many jobs offered Blue-Cross/Blue Shield.....back in the day...so there was no need....and did you ever price individual health care insurance ....UNAFFORDABLE ! ...........COBRA.......
    IMO, its better that our federal government take over this end of things and make it affordable for all people...much like social security....
    As to "people ignoring coverage until sick"....they would not be granted any coverage anyway by the greedy insurance companies.
    Affordability used to be based on what type of coverage you wanted. If you wanted all the bells and whistles, you would pay for it. If you wanted just catastrophic coverage, easily available for $160 for a single male age 55.

    Those with PE conditions went into the high risk pool usually run by the States, so coverage is/was available, just at higher premiums to make up for the lack of pre-paid premiums.

    The government should not be involved, at least on the Federal level, in health care, medical insurance or people's private lives.
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Whoa. Tag team.

    Regardless of your super judgmental position, I don't see how it hurts anyone.
    I think this is better , that the "child" up to the age of 26 be covered under the parents plan.
    Their expenses are quite high (student loans) and the jobs do not pay well for a "beginner" .
    But, I still feel that our government should take over the financing of health care....
    We should have a health care system similar to that of the earth's more advanced nations (Germany, France, Japan, England, Russia)

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Affordability used to be based on what type of coverage you wanted. If you wanted all the bells and whistles, you would pay for it. If you wanted just catastrophic coverage, easily available for $160 for a single male age 55.

    Those with PE conditions went into the high risk pool usually run by the States, so coverage is/was available, just at higher premiums to make up for the lack of pre-paid premiums.

    The government should not be involved, at least on the Federal level, in health care, medical insurance or people's private lives.
    I favor a health care plan where the individual pays for all the "bells and whistles".....and I think the basic costs should be shared 50-50...Similar the the VA set up.
    But, GottaGo, you do have good valid points...

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I favor a health care plan where the individual pays for all the "bells and whistles".....and I think the basic costs should be shared 50-50...Similar the the VA set up.
    But, GottaGo, you do have good valid points...
    The VA setup is part of the benefit package offered to our military, so I have no issue contributing (via tax money) to it.

    On the civilian end of it, Medicare/Medicaid for the low income group could have easily been expanded for those who could not afford even the basic insurance, but means testing would have to be tightened up. I also would not have a problem contributing towards a basic coverage plan for those who fell into this group.

    What I have the issue with is paying for full on everything covered plan, which I have been paying for with my own money, and it's not only being 'given' to those who can't pay for it, but everyone else is paying for it in a multitude of ways, it's required just because you have a pulse, and the beneficiary of the mandate is (mostly) for-profit companies.

    And before you say the government should run it because it's 'non-profit', think long and hard on it.
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    the lie is not telling the young and healthy that they are going to get charged more then they should be charged so the unhealthy don't have to pay as much. it is a Ponzi Scheme

    It is bad enough you wage war on the successful by taxing them more and more so the not so successful can have what they worked hard for
    now you want to do the same to the healthy by making them pay more then they should for health insurance so the not so healthy doesn't pay as much

    why do you hate the wealthy and now the healthy so much why do you want to punish them
    This would be more logical with proper punctuation and grammar.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    If Republicans are against this bill, you can be certain they are being financed by Insurance, HMOs, and big Pharma to try and derail it. That means that Insurance, HMOs, and Big Pharma have already deduced that this bill will lower their profits and their Republican toadies are working hard for big business vested interests. Just a fact, Jack. Politics as usual.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Obamacare sucks for every working American that has maintained insurance all their lives. People that ignored coverage until they were sick are being rewarded for poor behavior
    Really? When I was on active duty, my oldest son got a severe case of rheumatic fever, and the military health care system took care of him and likely saved his life. But I have since retired from the Navy, and once my son turned 22 (this was years before Obamacare upped the limit to 26), his health care coverage stopped...and no health insurance company would touch him because of his pre-existing condition. But thanks to Obamacare, this coming October 1st, my son will have access to health insurance for the first time in eight years.

    And then there's my brother-in-law, who just immigrated here to America this past July - it took us twenty-five freaking years to get him here - my wife petitioned him when he was eighteen, and now he's 43 of course (and NO, he's not a ward of the state - I and my wife are legally responsible for ALL his expenses - that's the way immigration works). Anyway, he has a heart condition. Do you really think that, after living overseas for all his life and having a heart condition, any health insurance company would even consider covering him? Of course not. But thanks to Obamacare, this coming October 1st, I'm going to be sitting down with him in front of a computer figuring out this health care exchange system.

    BUT if we had things YOUR way, my oldest son and my brother in law would both be s**t out of luck...and apparently that would be your cue to say, "Welcome to America, land of the free! And don't get sick, but if you do, die quickly so you won't bankrupt your family members."

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    If I am presented with a good enough argument from the "right", I could well change mind mind on this issue and be in the " less regulations, less taxes and less government" boat..
    And, has this ever really been tried ??
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    As to the question "is the GOP trying to hurt the insurance industry" ?
    no vote
    I simply do not know.
    I do know that it is not right that any business should profit so on man's suffering and ills.
    But, this is JMO.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Affordability used to be based on what type of coverage you wanted. If you wanted all the bells and whistles, you would pay for it. If you wanted just catastrophic coverage, easily available for $160 for a single male age 55.

    Those with PE conditions went into the high risk pool usually run by the States, so coverage is/was available, just at higher premiums to make up for the lack of pre-paid premiums.

    The government should not be involved, at least on the Federal level, in health care, medical insurance or people's private lives.
    $10,000 deductible health insurance policies haven't been available for $155 a month for a 55-year-old for I-don't-know-how-long. Try $600 a month. Someone else who has absolutely no idea what health insurance costs.

    Those high-risk pools you speak of? Limited enrollment. Often a waiting list. Often 6-month pre-existing conditions exclusion. Subsidized? Yes. But still so expensive the only people who can afford to buy that coverage are wealthy.
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