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    2 28.57%
  • No, this has nothing to do with the insurance companies, they just got in the way

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What are you talking about? Social Security? Sorry, but I don't owe you squat.
    Good, because I could care less about your measly squat.

    I don't support forcing taxpayers to pay for other peoples healthcare needs.
    Sorry but that is what you're supporting when you force taxpayers to pay for 'free riders'.

    That is the stupidest ****ing article I have seen in a while. How is forcing people into commerce freedom? WTF is wrong with the author of that article? Interestingly enough, this whole free-rider problem is a government creation.
    The individual mandate was a republican idea.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Good, because I could care less about your measly squat.
    Well, I could care less about your ****ty ideas you want to force me to be part of.

    Sorry but that is what you're supporting when you force taxpayers to pay for 'free riders'.
    I'm not forcing taxpayers to do anything. Welfare is something you support, so it's on you babe if it costs money,

    The individual mandate was a republican idea.
    More like a republican think tank idea that was later rejected by the very same think tank. Think tanks have the job of coming up with ideas and it just so happens many of them are terrible.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have no reason to respond to your post seriously as if there is no jobs in the US and somehow that is the free markets fault or that it was caused by deregulation as if that even begins to make sense in an environment where new regulations are constantly being imposed on businesses.

    As I said, a twenty-six year old is an adult and should be treated as one. Their healthcare needs are no longer the responsibility of their parents. A good parent would not be paying any bills for their kids when they are twenty-six years old. They would expect them to pay their own way or deal with the consequences.
    Thanks for responding seriously even though you didn't have to

    It's not a secret that jobs have been leaving the US when businesses move production off-shore. The difference between liberals and conservatives is that the conservative answer is usually to make the US more competitive, while liberals don't think we should give up the progress we've made to compete with sweat shops in Bangladesh. A free market with no regulation and low tariffs encourages and even demands that businesses move overseas in order to be competitive, costing Americans jobs that go to people in the 3rd world that will work for 1/10th as much. Can you explain to me how the free market will lower unemployment?

    As for your theory on parenting, you seem to be denying the instinctive drive in humans to see their genetic material passed on and thrive. That is to say, most parents would not allow their kids to become destitute without stepping in a little. I can imagine the parents that "expect them to pay their own way or deal with the consequences" but that hard of a line sounds pretty horrifying, and if that's been your experience I'm sorry to hear that.
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well, I could care less about your ****ty ideas you want to force me to be part of.

    I'm not forcing taxpayers to do anything. Welfare is something you support, so it's on you babe if it costs money,

    More like a republican think tank idea that was later rejected by the very same think tank. Think tanks have the job of coming up with ideas and it just so happens many of them are terrible.
    I'm not forced to read or respond to your ****ty posts, either.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    With Obamacare basically a done deal we're now seeing these ads:



    But the insurance industry needs young people to sign up for coverage if they are going to be able to afford the sick people that sign up as well. By encouraging healthy people to opt out, aren't they in effect attempting to make the insurance companies go broke? If that's so, doesn't that seem pretty anti-business for the pro-business party?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/22/us...w.html?hp&_r=0

    The overarching goal is to persuade many of today’s 48 million uninsured to sign up for insurance on the new exchanges created by the law. Crucially, officials need to woo older, sicker people without insurance as well as younger, healthier people, whose payments effectively subsidize those who will end up using more health care...

    But even as Mr. Obama’s campaign accelerates, Republicans at all political levels are working against the law.

    The Republican National Committee has begun what it calls a monthlong awareness campaign, with a television booking operation to make sure that pundits opposed to the law are always available to counter its boosters...

    Other conservative groups are broadcasting television advertisements that urge people not to sign up for coverage under the health care law. Americans for Prosperity began broadcasting an ad last week featuring a cancer survivor who warns about the dangers of the law. It is the latest in a series of commercials featuring women criticizing the law.
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Good, because I could care less about your measly squat.

    Sorry but that is what you're supporting when you force taxpayers to pay for 'free riders'.

    The individual mandate was a republican idea.
    Republicans voted against it. Try again.
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Do you realize that your comment is contradictory? If a 26-year old is covered under their parents plan, that means someone is paying the insurance company. That means they are getting the young, healthy people.
    You do realize, if a family of two adults (parents) and 2 kids is paying for family coverage, that a family of two adults and 3 kids (one over 21 but under 26 on this insurance mandate) pays the same premium?

    So, exactly who is paying for the 26 year old again?
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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    You do realize, if a family of two adults (parents) and 2 kids is paying for family coverage, that a family of two adults and 3 kids (one over 21 but under 26 on this insurance mandate) pays the same premium?

    So, exactly who is paying for the 26 year old again?
    what liberals don't understand insurance companies calculate the cost of a family plan with the premise of paying for the kids till 18 years of age now they will be forced to recalculate the plans for the added 8 years which will cause the cost of the plan to rise

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Obamacare sucks for every working American that has maintained insurance all their lives. People that ignored coverage until they were sick are being rewarded for poor behavior
    That is human nature, NOT really "poor" behavour...And many jobs offered Blue-Cross/Blue Shield.....back in the day...so there was no need....and did you ever price individual health care insurance ....UNAFFORDABLE ! ...........COBRA.......
    IMO, its better that our federal government take over this end of things and make it affordable for all people...much like social security....
    As to "people ignoring coverage until sick"....they would not be granted any coverage anyway by the greedy insurance companies.

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    Re: Are Republicans Trying to Hurt the Insurance Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Obamacare sucks for every working American that has maintained insurance all their lives. People that ignored coverage until they were sick are being rewarded for poor behavior
    You don't know that. You think that. You assume that. All those "working Americans" you speak of who have maintained insurance all of their lives? *Boo-Hoo-Hoo* Most of them, the greater majority of them, did no such thing. They were given healthcare by their employers. Their plans were heavily subsidized by their employers. Hell, most people don't even know what their healthcare insurance costs.

    Now...me? And others like me? Those entrepreneurs who take risks, create jobs, invest in themselves and their own future? They've been royally screwed by the health insurance model in this country. Up until now. Boo-Hoo for them in the past. And three cheers for the future.
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