View Poll Results: How many hours should the base of "Full Time" employment be?

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  • 30 Hours

    6 10.91%
  • 35 Hours

    6 10.91%
  • 40 Hours

    34 61.82%
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Thread: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    I've worked many jobs where the official work week was 37.5 hours (1/2 hour off for lunch).

    If it was set a 40 hrs, most douchey bosses could lower your hours to 39 a week and you wouldn't be full time. By it being 30 hrs a week, it would be obvious what your boss was doing if he cuts you down to 29. Any number is arbitrary, but 30 seems to a safe number.
    I think that douchey boss can and will cut it to 29 if he so choses. At least if its 40 hours a week, that's still an additional 10 extra hours of pay, which will make or break many families.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I voted other because for some jobs it's 40, for some it's less, for some it's more.

    Greece and Hungary are some of the hardest working countries in the world, and their economies are in the toilet.

    France has a 35h work week policy in place and lo and behold, the French are the most efficient workers in the world when you measure what they produce to how much they spent working on it.

    In Pictures: The World's Hardest-Working Countries - Forbes
    Mexico is said to be more hard-working than USA but yet, it's in the toilet too.
    Does it have the most efficient workers in the world, or just the best capital to work week ratio? I honestly believe that Chinese workers are much harder working then American ones are, yet that doesn't mean they produce more per hour.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I think that douchey boss can and will cut it to 29 if he so choses. At least if its 40 hours a week, that's still an additional 10 extra hours of pay, which will make or break many families.
    I don't deny that might happen. A boss that does that should take responsibility for his decision, though.
    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So talking with my dad tonight I actually heard something for the first time. Not sure how I missed it in previous readings of things (to be honest, Obamacare hasn't been one of those things I've been able to generate enough interest to look extremely heavily into, so that may be why) but he told me how one of the things his business is facing is the fact that...at least under the definitions of the ACA....30 hours of work is considered a Full Time Employee.

    What?

    Seriously, for as long as I've lived on this earth...even as a younger child...I understood that standard "Full time" was generally a "40 hour" work week minimum. That's definitely been my understanding for my entire working age. How in the world is it that we're randomly deciding that 30 hours is "full time" employment?

    Do you agree with equating a 30 hour work week to "Full Time" employment?
    Well I generaly work 50-60 hrs so w/e.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    I don't deny that might happen. A boss that does that should take responsibility for his decision, though.
    Do they have any less of a responsibility for scheduling someone for 39 hours just to avoid "full time"?

    If anything it should be something like 37-38.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Do they have any less of a responsibility for scheduling someone for 39 hours just to avoid "full time"?

    If anything it should be something like 37-38.
    Of course not, they know what they're doing.
    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Does it have the most efficient workers in the world, or just the best capital to work week ratio? I honestly believe that Chinese workers are much harder working then American ones are, yet that doesn't mean they produce more per hour.
    The French produce the most value for their work week.
    That makes them the most efficient workers.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Giving people who work 20-30 hours/wk health insurance does not cause any added stress and associated health risks
    There are no gifts of insurance. It is paid for and that cost impacts negatively on employers. The policy forces employers to do the dirty work and cut hours and take home that they would otherwise not do, but make no mistake it is the policy that forces the change.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    The French are efficient workers. Haha.

    French employers are the first ones to outsource labor, and many companies use other countries for in-place labor. You'll probably find as many Swiss workers in a French company as you will frogs.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Giving people who work 20-30 hours/wk health insurance does not cause any added stress and associated health risks
    1. There are no gifts of insurance, it is paid for.
    2. employers have already shown that they will reduce hours to avoid excessive costs imposed on them by the laws requirements. So you want to double down on the error that already has been shown.
    3. make no mistake the policy is the cause. No matter how much you want perception to be against employers, the policy promotes negative change in hours and take home pay.

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