View Poll Results: How many hours should the base of "Full Time" employment be?

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    6 10.91%
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    6 10.91%
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    34 61.82%
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Thread: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I didn't realize that forcing people to jump through hoops was a good thing. *eye roll*

    Maybe you should be a business owner, since you seem to have such a fancy opinion of what they "should or would" do? The employees we are talking about here aren't exactly expensive to train. It doesn't cost a lot of money to train someone to flip burgers or work a cash register at Walmart. And you bet your bottom dollar most of those are going to be part time workers after this healthcare law takes place.
    Because you can bet your bottom dollar that almost all of them were part time workers before
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I didn't realize that forcing people to jump through hoops was a good thing. *eye roll*

    Maybe you should be a business owner, since you seem to have such a fancy opinion of what they "should or would" do? The employees we are talking about here aren't exactly expensive to train. It doesn't cost a lot of money to train someone to flip burgers or work a cash register at Walmart. And you bet your bottom dollar most of those are going to be part time workers after this healthcare law takes place.
    Ok, guess we'll just see. The economy has been working against the middle class for decades now, we'll just have to see if this worsens or improves it.
    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because you can bet your bottom dollar that almost all of them were part time workers before
    I think you were missing the point. Most workers that the business mandate is trying to cover aren't exactly high tech, expensive to train workers. I was just giving examples.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Ok, guess we'll just see. The economy has been working against the middle class for decades now, we'll just have to see if this worsens or improves it.
    I'm thinking it'll work against it. This law is trying to help the lower class the most, not the middle class. But anyways, the only thing that can possibly work in the middle classes favor right now is jobs. And that needs to come from energy independence. But that's another topic for another time.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I think you were missing the point. Most workers that the business mandate is trying to cover aren't exactly high tech, expensive to train workers. I was just giving examples.
    You're missing the point

    Those workers are already part timers
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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I'm thinking it'll work against it. This law is trying to help the lower class the most, not the middle class. But anyways, the only thing that can possibly work in the middle classes favor right now is jobs. And that needs to come from energy independence. But that's another topic for another time.
    I honestly don't know what these companies are that have more than 50 workers working 40 hours a week and still don't provide health care options. Any examples you know of?
    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You're missing the point

    Those workers are already part timers
    Many part timers used to work over 30 hours. Now, they won't be able to, which is what we are talking about here. If you want to jump into the middle of the conversation, you have to at least keep up...

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    I honestly don't know what these companies are that have more than 50 workers working 40 hours a week and still don't provide health care options. Any examples you know of?
    Which makes me question why the mandate was needed in the first place. All this is going to do is further cut the hours of already part time workers trying to make ends meet.

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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Which makes me question why the mandate was needed in the first place. All this is going to do is further cut the hours of already part time workers trying to make ends meet.
    But the mandate is separate from the 30-hour rule, isn't it?
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    Re: Thirty Hours = "Full Time"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Many part timers used to work over 30 hours. Now, they won't be able to, which is what we are talking about here. If you want to jump into the middle of the conversation, you have to at least keep up...
    Then they'll be free to get a 2nd job, increasing their income
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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