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Fate of the Republican Party

What's going to happen?

  • Establishment wins

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Tea Party wins

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Republican Party splits and ceases to be a national party

    Votes: 12 37.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32

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With nation wide demographics stacking up against any kind of right-wing faction, the growing enmity between the Tea Party and Establishment among Republicans has me wondering about the eventual fate of the party. There's only so much gerrymandering and Voter ID laws can do to stall out the demise, and the two sides won't be able to share power much longer with their constituents making such contradictory demands.
 
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With nation wide demographics stacking up against any kind of right-wing faction, the growing enmity between the Tea Party and Establishment among Republicans has me wondering about the eventual fate of the party. There's only so much gerrymandering and Voter ID laws can do to stall out the demise

Any demise will be the result of the economy, not a political party...
 
This is a thread about the Republican Party, not the United States as a whole.

Is this some sort of fascination for you? What do you think happens when there is only one party?
 
With nation wide demographics stacking up against any kind of right-wing faction, the growing enmity between the Tea Party and Establishment among Republicans has me wondering about the eventual fate of the party. There's only so much gerrymandering and Voter ID laws can do to stall out the demise, and the two sides won't be able to share power much longer with their constituents making such contradictory demands.

I have said this before, any talk of a demise of the republican party is way premature. The democratic party has been declared dead a couple times in the not too distant past and it is still around. Republicans will find a way to make their message resonate with voters, you can count on it. The only question is how long it will take.

Further, your poll does not have the most likely option, which is that the tea party and more oldschool republicans will merge behind a single message and learn to sell that message, and change it as needed. No party is running on the same issues as even 25 years ago, and both parties will adjust to represent what voters want.
 
Your observations are very short-sighted. The Republican party isn't the same today as it was 20 years ago, and the democratic party wasn't the same as it was 20 years ago. Both have conformed to radicalism and the "punch-line" mentality. 10, 20 years from now...neither will be the same.
 
With nation wide demographics stacking up against any kind of right-wing faction, the growing enmity between the Tea Party and Establishment among Republicans has me wondering about the eventual fate of the party. There's only so much gerrymandering and Voter ID laws can do to stall out the demise, and the two sides won't be able to share power much longer with their constituents making such contradictory demands.

If the republican party meets its demise, another will rise to fill the void. Politics exists in a balance, and the world itself does. When there is one extreme, the opposite extreme rises to balance it. Without some type of balance, this country cannot continue to exist as a prosperous nation. I say prosperous with reservation, as I don't expect it to remain that way indefinitely.
 
If they do not try to appeal to the demographics we are going to be left with a bunch of right wing extremists (some would argue we are already there) that cannot even field a legit candidate.
 
It's certainly not the party I remember from my "youth", nor is it the party it was 20-30 years ago. I liked it better then. I despise it now; but I also despise the democratic party, which is certainly not the party it was 20-30 years ago. Eventually a new party may emerge that I actually like, or republicans/democrats might actually stop working for the good of the party and return to working for the good of the nation.
 
The Guns and Dope Party, baby. It is the next big thing, count on it. :lamo


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Is this some sort of fascination for you? What do you think happens when there is only one party?

In the United States? With our culture and political system? Political disputes become less factional in nature, and parties themselves cease to exist.

Democrats and Republicans compete with each other over the votes, money, and connections of special interest groups. In order to form an organization that is capable of meeting the demands of these special interest groups, the two political parties have to develop a platform that meets an extremely tailored and abstracted range of demands and expectations which REQUIRE that individual members defer their regional goals on behalf of this platform.

If R. Hank from Minnesota wants to get anything done on behalf of behalf of his constituents, then he is REQUIRED to agree to the entire platform of the broader Republican Party, regardless of whether the people Minnesota only care about that platform in bits and pieces. If Hank resists, then he is punished by being excluded from committees that draft legislation he needs to have input on in order to represent the people of Minnesota.

As soon as the Republican Party is gone, then any pressure the Democrats feel to function as a cohesive entity will be gone, as the Democrats only function as a cohesive entity in order to remain relevant against the Republican Party.

The Democrats will probably continue existing as a weak nebulous of Congressional politics, but Independents, third-parties, and surviving politicians under the Republican label would affect their internal politics so heavily that there would be very little resemblence to the Democratic Party as it exists now.
 
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I'm hoping the moderate and old guard republicans and blue dog democrats form a new party. I can already see signs of it starting to happen in republican controled Utah......


"...The kickoff press conference Wednesday at the Capitol was also attended by former Gov. Norm Bangerter, former first lady Norma Matheson, former House Speaker Dave Clark, and current Salt Lake County Mayor Ben McAdams and Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker.

Opponents contend the Count My Vote effort is being led by deep-pocketed, old-guard politicians desperate to hang on to power and is derisively referred to as "Buy My Vote."....read...."
Count My Vote launches effort for direct Utah primaries | The Salt Lake Tribune


If they do start a new party....it sure would help separate them from the loonies. The party of the loonies would soon lose all credibiilty without them and become a far flung fringe group.

I think the RINOs should start thinking of a name to call their new party.
 
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The two-way battle between Rand Paul and Chris Christie will be epic.
Other "Paul" types will circle around Paul.
Republican Rules currently favor Christie as per the way Romney won.
With nation wide demographics stacking up against any kind of right-wing faction, the growing enmity between the Tea Party and Establishment among Republicans has me wondering about the eventual fate of the party. There's only so much gerrymandering and Voter ID laws can do to stall out the demise, and the two sides won't be able to share power much longer with their constituents making such contradictory demands.
 
It's certainly not the party I remember from my "youth", nor is it the party it was 20-30 years ago. I liked it better then. I despise it now; but I also despise the democratic party, which is certainly not the party it was 20-30 years ago. Eventually a new party may emerge that I actually like, or republicans/democrats might actually stop working for the good of the party and return to working for the good of the nation.

Well the parties I remember from my youth had coca cola, chips and dips, and spiked punch. There was a live band that played badly and one of those giant sparkly balls hanging from the ceiling and kids lined up along the walls afraid to dance. Then...oh...wait. You meant "political party?" Never mind. :) LOL
 
One party? As with 1860--1912, except with the G. Cleveland burp, with a Repub congress tho.
Is this some sort of fascination for you? What do you think happens when there is only one party?
 
One party? As with 1860--1912, except with the G. Cleveland burp, with a Repub congress tho.

If there is no alternative view, you end up with a dictator like system. How many recessions/depressions did we have to endure during that time frame?
 
No, really, your comments that I have read seem antagonistic towards liberal ideology. How do you define liberal?

I don't define liberal. It has already been defined...
 
I'm hoping the moderate and old guard republicans and blue dog democrats form a new party. I can already see signs of it starting to happen in republican controled Utah......



"...The kickoff press conference Wednesday at the Capitol was also attended by former Gov. Norm Bangerter, former first lady Norma Matheson, former House Speaker Dave Clark, and current Salt Lake County Mayor Ben McAdams and Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker.

Opponents contend the Count My Vote effort is being led by deep-pocketed, old-guard politicians desperate to hang on to power and is derisively referred to as "Buy My Vote."....read...."

Count My Vote launches effort for direct Utah primaries | The Salt Lake Tribune

Yes, this is what I think will happen. A two party system has to be mostly balanced along the center, but that's not what we have. We have a Republican party that has basically forced out its moderates, leaving the Democrats to take them up and take the center. Really, Democrats have become a centrist party, when a lot of liberals want it to be liberal. I think Republicans have gone so far right they cannot take the center again. I think they will continue to bleed voters until a new party forms from the center, pushing the Dems back to the left and leaving the Republicans to fade away. It's hopelessly antiquated.
 
Reality kicks in and the establishment wins.
 
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