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Thread: Fate of the Republican Party

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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Is this some sort of fascination for you? What do you think happens when there is only one party?
    In the United States? With our culture and political system? Political disputes become less factional in nature, and parties themselves cease to exist.

    Democrats and Republicans compete with each other over the votes, money, and connections of special interest groups. In order to form an organization that is capable of meeting the demands of these special interest groups, the two political parties have to develop a platform that meets an extremely tailored and abstracted range of demands and expectations which REQUIRE that individual members defer their regional goals on behalf of this platform.

    If R. Hank from Minnesota wants to get anything done on behalf of behalf of his constituents, then he is REQUIRED to agree to the entire platform of the broader Republican Party, regardless of whether the people Minnesota only care about that platform in bits and pieces. If Hank resists, then he is punished by being excluded from committees that draft legislation he needs to have input on in order to represent the people of Minnesota.

    As soon as the Republican Party is gone, then any pressure the Democrats feel to function as a cohesive entity will be gone, as the Democrats only function as a cohesive entity in order to remain relevant against the Republican Party.

    The Democrats will probably continue existing as a weak nebulous of Congressional politics, but Independents, third-parties, and surviving politicians under the Republican label would affect their internal politics so heavily that there would be very little resemblence to the Democratic Party as it exists now.
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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    I'm hoping the moderate and old guard republicans and blue dog democrats form a new party. I can already see signs of it starting to happen in republican controled Utah......


    "...The kickoff press conference Wednesday at the Capitol was also attended by former Gov. Norm Bangerter, former first lady Norma Matheson, former House Speaker Dave Clark, and current Salt Lake County Mayor Ben McAdams and Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker.

    Opponents contend the Count My Vote effort is being led by deep-pocketed, old-guard politicians desperate to hang on to power and is derisively referred to as "Buy My Vote."....read...."
    Count My Vote launches effort for direct Utah primaries | The Salt Lake Tribune


    If they do start a new party....it sure would help separate them from the loonies. The party of the loonies would soon lose all credibiilty without them and become a far flung fringe group.

    I think the RINOs should start thinking of a name to call their new party.
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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    The two-way battle between Rand Paul and Chris Christie will be epic.
    Other "Paul" types will circle around Paul.
    Republican Rules currently favor Christie as per the way Romney won.
    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    With nation wide demographics stacking up against any kind of right-wing faction, the growing enmity between the Tea Party and Establishment among Republicans has me wondering about the eventual fate of the party. There's only so much gerrymandering and Voter ID laws can do to stall out the demise, and the two sides won't be able to share power much longer with their constituents making such contradictory demands.

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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    It's certainly not the party I remember from my "youth", nor is it the party it was 20-30 years ago. I liked it better then. I despise it now; but I also despise the democratic party, which is certainly not the party it was 20-30 years ago. Eventually a new party may emerge that I actually like, or republicans/democrats might actually stop working for the good of the party and return to working for the good of the nation.
    Well the parties I remember from my youth had coca cola, chips and dips, and spiked punch. There was a live band that played badly and one of those giant sparkly balls hanging from the ceiling and kids lined up along the walls afraid to dance. Then...oh...wait. You meant "political party?" Never mind. LOL
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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Is this some sort of fascination for you? What do you think happens when there is only one party?
    How do you lean liberal?
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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    How do you lean liberal?
    Knowledge of history would be your friend...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    One party? As with 1860--1912, except with the G. Cleveland burp, with a Repub congress tho.
    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Is this some sort of fascination for you? What do you think happens when there is only one party?

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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Knowledge of history would be your friend...
    No, really, your comments that I have read seem antagonistic towards liberal ideology. How do you define liberal?
    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    He is a "classical" liberal, and stands as the only one on each of his Forums to be given this distinction, rare.
    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    How do you lean liberal?

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    Re: Fate of the Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    One party? As with 1860--1912, except with the G. Cleveland burp, with a Repub congress tho.
    If there is no alternative view, you end up with a dictator like system. How many recessions/depressions did we have to endure during that time frame?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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