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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, CJ.

    My question is: how does this benefit anyone? I doubt many businesses are going to continue to pay 40-hours wages to a 30-hour work week, so if that's the case, people are going to find their paychecks a lot smaller than they're used to be. With Obamacare kicking in soon, that seems like a double whammy...lower paychecks at the same time everyone now pays more for health insurance. Well, everyone except those, like unions, who are receiving exemptions. Have I missed something important here?
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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Anyone who thinks he does not want a shutdown is a left wing partisan.
    Anyone who thinks he does want a government shutdown is a rightwing partisan.
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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Looks like Broun in a crowded field since Gingrey whined about how low his pay is.
    He is already an Akin/Mourdock.
    In the latest PPP polls Michele Nunn leads Broun 41-36, she leads Kingston 40-38 and is tied with Gingrey 41 apiece. Here is just the Republican Field Gingrey 25, Broun 19, Kinston 15, Handel 13, Perdue 5, Grayson 3.

    Of course with Michele Nunn it is a lot of name recognition. But I truly believe if the GOP nominates Broun, our next senator from Georgia will be another Democratic Nunn. But no one really knows where she stands on the issues yet.

    Georgia has moved up its primary from July to May in hopes to keep the nomination away from Broun. If Michele Nunn is anything like her father, she will have my vote regardless of who the GOP nomination is. But until she comes out and lets everyone know where she stands on the issues, this may be just a pipe dream especially if she is like an Atlanta Liberal. We will just have to wait and see.
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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Anyone who thinks he does want a government shutdown is a rightwing partisan.
    Not necessarily. If Obama can get the public to blame the GOP heavily for the shutdown and carry that disapproval into the midterms next year and possibly retake the House, that would be a huge incentive for a shutdown for Obama. That's a big IF though.
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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    In the latest PPP polls Michele Nunn leads Broun 41-36, she leads Kingston 40-38 and is tied with Gingrey 41 apiece. Here is just the Republican Field Gingrey 25, Broun 19, Kinston 15, Handel 13, Perdue 5, Grayson 3.

    Of course with Michele Nunn it is a lot of name recognition. But I truly believe if the GOP nominates Broun, our next senator from Georgia will be another Democratic Nunn. But no one really knows where she stands on the issues yet.

    Georgia has moved up its primary from July to May in hopes to keep the nomination away from Broun. If Michele Nunn is anything like her father, she will have my vote regardless of who the GOP nomination is. But until she comes out and lets everyone know where she stands on the issues, this may be just a pipe dream especially if she is like an Atlanta Liberal. We will just have to wait and see.
    My girl from North Dakota didn't let you down.
    As a stage 4 cancer survivor, she delivered a forceful defense of ACA BEFORE the election.
    With all the old-timers in ND, ACA actually helped her.
    Repubs may have this "Akin" problem in LA and AK also.
    Last edited by NIMBY; 09-23-13 at 02:21 AM.

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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Democrats would gain the most from a shutdown. Obama, not so much.

    As much as I hope it doesn't come down to it, I think many Republicans need a reality check in the worst possible manner. Nothing would please me more than seeing the Tea Partiers smacked down and the establishment being able to take in some control again. To me the Tea Partiers are just right-wing variants of the hippies. They can't stand the establishment, and go to extraordinary lengths to create upheaval out of some induced haze. Instead of drugs it's some moron's interpretation about the founding generation. Same difference, really.

    We should deal with it like we dealt with the hippies: crush dissent, make the machine work again by making the public like the machine.
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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    My girl from North Dakota didn't let you down.
    As a stage 4 cancer survivor, she delivered a forceful defense of ACA BEFORE the election.
    With all the old-timers in ND, ACA actually helped her.
    Repubs may have this "Akin" problem in LA and AK also.
    In my 1 Oct Senate blog, I switched AK back into the Dem hold. Begich seems to be doing quite well there. LA, is a tough one, it in my opinion depends on whom the GOP nominates. You are correct, an Akin or Mourdock here could give Landreau new life just like in Missouri with McCaskill. She had no business winning with only a 39% likability rating, but given Akin's 32%, she did. Missouri is a classic example of the two party system failure where over 60% of the voters want neither, but one has to win.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Your thoughts please.
    Vs. lose, yes.

    Pride goes before the fall. I don't know what the big deal is the government shuts down every day at five pm and every weekend

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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    I predict there will not be a Government shutdown.
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    Re: Does Obama want a government shut down?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I predict there will not be a Government shutdown.
    Well....your predictions are almost always wrong...but this time you are correct. Your fellow Republicans know that it is political suicide for them. Polls are once again showing that Americans by and large see through their political gamesmanship. You guys lose yet again with your theatrics.
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