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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Pope Francis has again pushed aside tradition and embraced a progressive outlook, repairing frayed bonds between the Church and gays, atheists, and those who use contraception and have had abortions.

    As leader of the Vatican, Pope Francis is not only a religious leader, but Head of State of the small Catholic nation, and can politically and diplomatically intervene in world affairs to promote peace and ethics.

    So, with only a few months of experience, how does this Pope rank amongst all others?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/wo...OSEikXs/MIljqw
    He seems like a good enough guy.

    I think the left's appreciation of him has more to do with media slant though.

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    I'm not at all sure that "popularity" is desirable anyway, but I do think it's far too soon in his papacy to assess Francis's leadership.

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The best pope will be the one that sells all of the Vatican's treasures and uses its wealth to feed hungry people all across the world.
    You clearly don't understand the mission of the Church. It's not to feed the poor.

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I was raised Catholic. Tried to be a Franciscan, which is what I like about Pope Francis (I'm still a big fan of St. Francis).

    People like Ratzy (Benedict XVI) drove me away from the church. Francis is almost the polar opposite.
    People like Benedict XVI who tried to restore tradition to the Church are what deepen my faith. It is very lukewarm otherwise.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Although it's difficult to judge based on such a short time, I find Pope Francis far superior to his predecessor, who appeared to me to be more concerned with pomp and ideology than people themselves. If my instinct is correct, Francis may have a healing effect overall, bringing together Catholics who had previously been disdained by the church.
    You don't understand the point of tradition and ceremony, then.

    Imagine if the president gave a speech to Americans dressed in jeans and a t-shirt and started saying stuff like "yo, dude." Yet by ignoring the ceremonies and forms of the Church, it is what many modernists have accomplished.

    Still, I'm not a big fan of Catholicism, with its incredible wealth which it squanders on itself rather than on the people who live in poverty. Church leaders drape themselves in silk and gold while so much of their flock go hungry, lacking basic requirements for a decent life. To me, the church represents greed and selfish authoritism. Perhaps eventually this pope will initiate changes to use the church's wealth for its people instead of itself. I hope so.
    The Church's mission is not relief of temporal needs!

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    He seems like a good enough guy.

    I think the left's appreciation of him has more to do with media slant though.
    Exactly. He's not about to go and change doctrine on things like abortion and same sex marriage because doctrines cannot change!

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Best Pope ever? Probably any number of the ones who looked the other way and protected peodophile priests who ruined the lives of tens of thousands of young boys and girls all over the world. If you're a Catholic with a sense of decency and a conscience, any of such Popes burning in hell would be a good Pope.
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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote from Pope Francis: "The teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear and I am a son of the church"

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Pius V or Pius X

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    I voted for Francis on the poll, because I like him more than Emperor Palpatine.

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