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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    he has the potential, certainly
    many of you are probably not well acquainted with Pope John XXIII
    he was a fabulous pontiff. he was a peoples' pope, and not just for catholic people
    he moved away from ideology to embrace social causes and economic realities
    and he apologized for the church's anti-semitic history

    Pope Francis initially appears to be a person of the same high calibre
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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Pope Francis has again pushed aside tradition and embraced a progressive outlook, repairing frayed bonds between the Church and gays, atheists, and those who use contraception and have had abortions.

    As leader of the Vatican, Pope Francis is not only a religious leader, but Head of State of the small Catholic nation, and can politically and diplomatically intervene in world affairs to promote peace and ethics.

    So, with only a few months of experience, how does this Pope rank amongst all others?

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    If you like Popes that take a loose view on traditional values, I would have thought you would have gone for a guy like that Spaniard Alexander VI.

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    St Peter?
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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Francis is probably the best of the three listed, although it's clear that the Vatican doesn't like him much (they have to keep "correcting" him), but the best Pope will be the last Pope that finally drives that criminal organization completely into the ground.
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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    The best pope will be the one that sells all of the Vatican's treasures and uses its wealth to feed hungry people all across the world.
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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Pope Francis has again pushed aside tradition and embraced a progressive outlook, repairing frayed bonds between the Church and gays, atheists, and those who use contraception and have had abortions.

    As leader of the Vatican, Pope Francis is not only a religious leader, but Head of State of the small Catholic nation, and can politically and diplomatically intervene in world affairs to promote peace and ethics.

    So, with only a few months of experience, how does this Pope rank amongst all others?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/wo...OSEikXs/MIljqw
    Good question. I'd be curious to know, of those responding, who are themselves Roman Catholics. I'd also be curious to know if any of the Popes so impressed anyone that they joined or plan to join the Catholic Church.
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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Good question. I'd be curious to know, of those responding, who are themselves Roman Catholics. I'd also be curious to know if any of the Pope's so impressed anyone that they joined or plan to join the Catholic Church.
    I was raised Catholic. Tried to be a Franciscan, which is what I like about Pope Francis (I'm still a big fan of St. Francis).

    People like Ratzy (Benedict XVI) drove me away from the church. Francis is almost the polar opposite.


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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Although it's difficult to judge based on such a short time, I find Pope Francis far superior to his predecessor, who appeared to me to be more concerned with pomp and ideology than people themselves. If my instinct is correct, Francis may have a healing effect overall, bringing together Catholics who had previously been disdained by the church.

    Still, I'm not a big fan of Catholicism, with its incredible wealth which it squanders on itself rather than on the people who live in poverty. Church leaders drape themselves in silk and gold while so much of their flock go hungry, lacking basic requirements for a decent life. To me, the church represents greed and selfish authoritism. Perhaps eventually this pope will initiate changes to use the church's wealth for its people instead of itself. I hope so.

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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Although it's difficult to judge based on such a short time, I find Pope Francis far superior to his predecessor, who appeared to me to be more concerned with pomp and ideology than people themselves. If my instinct is correct, Francis may have a healing effect overall, bringing together Catholics who had previously been disdained by the church.

    Still, I'm not a big fan of Catholicism, with its incredible wealth which it squanders on itself rather than on the people who live in poverty. Church leaders drape themselves in silk and gold while so much of their flock go hungry, lacking basic requirements for a decent life. To me, the church represents greed and selfish authoritism. Perhaps eventually this pope will initiate changes to use the church's wealth for its people instead of itself. I hope so.
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    Re: Best Pope Ever?

    I'm liking Pope Franky a lot. JP Deuce had some personal qualities that I admired, but I disagreed with a great deal of his messages. Franky appears to have both character and message down for me.

    As far as "best pope ever" goes, though, I don't have an adequate knowledge base from which to make that assessment.
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