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  • You can have any gun you want and no one can stop you.

    17 33.33%
  • You can have any ARM you want. Why stop at guns? Knives, grenades, nunchucks, tanks...it's all good!

    10 19.61%
  • Yeah, you can have a gun, but there are limits to that right, like every other right.

    21 41.18%
  • You can have a gun so you can join in a militia instead of having a standing army.

    10 19.61%
  • You can have an 18th century single-shot firearm and no one can stop you.

    8 15.69%
  • You and your gun cannot be singled out by the government, it has to follow it's own laws

    8 15.69%
  • As a principle you should have the right to a gun, but we're not going to explain how.

    4 7.84%
  • It's purposefully vague.

    5 9.80%
  • Other

    10 19.61%
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Thread: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

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    What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Gun control is a hot issue, but it all comes down to the 2nd Amendment, which reads:

    "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    But what does that sentence actually guarantee?

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    It means the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed and a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state being the reason why.

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    It says:

    1. the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed." That is an absolute statement.

    It gives as rationale that having an armed citizenry is necessary to insure freedom and this includes the ability to rapidly assemble a "militia."

    A militia not only can be used as a domestic military force, but also in the instance of domestic chaos. For example, during Katrina, when all the police ran away nor was National Guard dropped it, a "militia" of citizens COULD (though wasn't) have been assembled by those people in New Orleans. Instead, the only efforts by the limited law enforcement was to forcibly disarm people.

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Gun control is a hot issue, but it all comes down to the 2nd Amendment, which reads:

    "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    But what does that sentence actually guarantee?
    It's pretty self-explanetory.

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    "shall not be infringed"

    Do you want us to define each word?

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    "shall not be infringed"

    Do you want us to define each word?
    Yes, that is what I'm trying to get at. Arm, militia, infringe...

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Yes, that is what I'm trying to get at. Arm, militia, infringe...
    Which word do you not understand?

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Which word do you not understand?
    Start with "arms"

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Start with "arms"
    You can't google an online dictionary or what?

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    It means the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed and a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state being the reason why.
    This is correct.
    Last edited by Boo Radley; 09-14-13 at 02:31 AM.

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