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  • You can have any gun you want and no one can stop you.

    17 33.33%
  • You can have any ARM you want. Why stop at guns? Knives, grenades, nunchucks, tanks...it's all good!

    10 19.61%
  • Yeah, you can have a gun, but there are limits to that right, like every other right.

    21 41.18%
  • You can have a gun so you can join in a militia instead of having a standing army.

    10 19.61%
  • You can have an 18th century single-shot firearm and no one can stop you.

    8 15.69%
  • You and your gun cannot be singled out by the government, it has to follow it's own laws

    8 15.69%
  • As a principle you should have the right to a gun, but we're not going to explain how.

    4 7.84%
  • It's purposefully vague.

    5 9.80%
  • Other

    10 19.61%
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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You seem rather surprised that there are divergent views on the matter, and your responses indicate you haven't looked into much of this. I suggest poring through the Gun Control and US Constitution sections; it's all -- and I do mean all -- been said in there.

    So yeah, it matters, because a 497th discussion about it doesn't add much value.
    I see you have been on this forum for nearly 8 years. You can see I have not. I would rather have a conversation than to read through 8 years of old threads.

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You seem rather surprised that there are divergent views on the matter, and your responses indicate you haven't looked into much of this. I suggest poring through the Gun Control and US Constitution sections; it's all -- and I do mean all -- been said in there.

    So yeah, it matters, because a 497th discussion about it doesn't add much value.
    And why would I be surprised that there are different viewpoints? I posed the multiple choice question in the first place.

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    And why would I be surprised that there are different viewpoints?
    That is hardly for me for say.
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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    I see you have been on this forum for nearly 8 years. You can see I have not. I would rather have a conversation than to read through 8 years of old threads.
    Well, then don't labor under the idea that you've got anything to say which hasn't already been said.
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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, then don't labor under the idea that you've got anything to say which hasn't already been said.
    and those of us who have dealt with the same silly arguments over and over have sharpened our knives and tend to cut much faster and deeper into mindless psychobabble than those who have not seen it before



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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and those of us who have dealt with the same silly arguments over and over have sharpened our knives and tend to cut much faster and deeper into mindless psychobabble than those who have not seen it before
    Yes; everything he's said has been refuted, dismissed, and swatted away countless times.
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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and those of us who have dealt with the same silly arguments over and over have sharpened our knives and tend to cut much faster and deeper into mindless psychobabble than those who have not seen it before
    Congratulations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, then don't labor under the idea that you've got anything to say which hasn't already been said.
    Before you take this all too seriously, remember that we would be in government setting policy, not arguing on the internet, if any of us really had any authority. Discussing things that have already been discussed ad nauseum is basically what sites like this are for. So don't let your seniority get to your head.

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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Congratulations.



    Before you take this all too seriously, remember that we would be in government setting policy, not arguing on the internet, if any of us really had any authority. Discussing things that have already been discussed ad nauseum is basically what sites like this are for. So don't let your seniority get to your head.
    that's an interesting way of trying to defend one of the really dumb arguments

    that the second amendment only applies to muskets



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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Before you take this all too seriously, remember that we would be in government setting policy, not arguing on the internet
    Ummm . . . there are those who are doing both, actually.

    Discussing things that have already been discussed ad nauseum is basically what sites like this are for. So don't let your seniority get to your head.
    It's not my "seniority." Chronology is of no matter; there are idiots who have stayed idiots and spouted the same nonsense the whole time I've been here. It's my expertise and experience.
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    Re: What Does the 2nd Amendment Actually Say?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what exactly are you trying to say
    The Second Amendment is not about guns. It's about the nature of the military.
    Proud to be a tax and spend leftist.

    Proud supporter of the real Second Amendment.

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