View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

    5 4.95%
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Thread: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL

    So, naturally, your view is the 'good speech' and the other views are 'the bad speech.'

    Oh, Jerry.
    Are we talking about gun control, or abortion? Because everything is judged on it's own merits and flaws.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm not forcing anyone to do a damn thing. Nothing said on DebatePolitics.com is of any consequence. We are not congress, we do not make policy, we do not enforce law. If you win a debate, you don't get your way, and if you lose a debate, you don't have someone else's will forced on you.

    It's just words. Calm the **** down.
    did not say you were forcing anyone, I am asking a question ...and I did not refer to you

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm not forcing anyone to do a damn thing. Nothing said on DebatePolitics.com is of any consequence. We are not congress, we do not make policy, we do not enforce law. If you win a debate, you don't get your way, and if you lose a debate, you don't have someone else's will forced on you.

    It's just words. Calm the **** down.
    i am not the one interlacing expletives in his argument.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    did not say you were forcing anyone, I am asking a question of you....
    You're acting like the post you're quoting was addressed to you.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i am not the one interlacing expletives in his argument.
    No you and the Mod are injecting lies into your arguments.

    Speaking of which, where did he go? Maybe he's actually reading Roe and discovering that slavery is not in there.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    you are forcing someone to do something against their will.
    Here's my position on abortion. You tell me who I'm forcing to do what:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Welcome to the forum.


    As a teen I've supported 2 of my children to be aborted. I regret that. We were both trying to escape responsibility. In my early 20s my fiance and I turned away from abortion but weren't ready to raise children. Yes we used condoms but BC has to be properly used consistently. We failed. We gave a child up for adoption. A couple years later (we made it a couple years pregnancy-free) she was pregnant again. We were actually on the fence about this one, to give it to the same couple who adopted the first time or to keep it. We decided to give it to that couple and hopefully further improve our lives.


    A couple years later (another couple years pregnancy-free) we decided to keep the child, and soon had a second, after which she tied her tubes.


    About 5 years later she developed clinically diagnosed and medically treated mental problems. Her first affair was with someone who didn't actually exist. She imagined him, and she imagined him being dead, too. Creepy. That opened the door to affairs with real people. I filed for divorce 8 years ago and it's only just now coming to a conclusion, with our 2 boys caught in the middle.


    If I had it all to do over again I would have had a vasectomy at 16 and joined the military while still in highschool.


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    Today I do not support any form of elective abortion, only abortion when it's medically required. However, the consequences of banning first-term abortion far outweigh the lives saved because of the drastic extent the government would have to intrude into our lives in order to enforce such a ban. So, while I do not support first-term abortion and speak against it, I do see it as the lesser of two evils.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're acting like the post you're quoting was addressed to you.

    I was addressing united...

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    I was addressing united...
    Ok, internet customs and courtesies: it is generally agreed that you are addressing the person you are quoting.

    You quoted me, not united, that means you're addressing me, not united. Because you quoted me, the software sent me the notification to my User Control Panel get my attention. It did not send United the notification to his User Control Panel because you did not quote him.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Here's my position on abortion. You tell me who I'm forcing to do what:

    ...As a teen I've supported 2 of my children to be aborted...

    ...A couple years later (another couple years pregnancy-free) we decided to keep the child, and soon had a second, after which she tied her tubes...

    ...If I had it all to do over again I would have had a vasectomy at 16 and joined the military while still in highschool.
    Wow - you just said "we aborted two, gave one up for adoption, and then kept two children . . . and if I had to do it all over again I wouldn't have any kids at all."

    So - you don't want your children you didn't abort and wish they were never born? Why - BECAUSE OF YOUR EX WIFE?

    Charming. (sarcasm)

    I might be pro-choice, but I have four kids and never once have I regretted that and wished I could go back in time and just erase them out of my life.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ok, internet customs and courtesies: it is generally agreed that you are addressing the person you are quoting.

    You quoted me, not united, that means you're addressing me, not united. Because you quoted me, the software sent me the notification to my User Control Panel get my attention. It did not send United the notification to his User Control Panel because you did not quote him.
    jerry I don't not believe I was quoting you, about force...will you please provide the quote

    please see post 665

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