View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

    5 4.95%
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Men do have the same rights as women. If they get pregnant, they have the choice to abort.
    You have no idea how utterly stupid that is. It makes about as much sense as the idiots who say that gay people have the same rights as straight people, they just have to marry people of the other gender.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    ever hear of "due process"

    A women who wants to have a abortion but is forced to have a child against her will denies the womans right to due process.
    The claim was that an abortion ban = slavery. Look at Roe Section 11. If an abortion ban = slavery then Roe allows slavery at the state's discretion after viability. Whoa what happened there!

    But slavery has nothing to do with abortion. Nothing.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Every time you debate gun rights and abortion you're not trying to convince people to see it from your view, and perhaps forgo theirs?
    No, I'm not. I'm using them as a springboard to say what i want to say, to put information out there, because the best response to bad speech is more good speech.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The claim was that an abortion ban = slavery. Look at Roe Section 11. If an abortion ban = slavery then Roe allows slavery at the state's discretion after viability. Whoa what happened there!

    But slavery has nothing to do with abortion. Nothing.
    you are forcing someone to do something against their will.

    what is a slave but person forced into involuntary servitude?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    ever hear of "due process"

    A women who wants to have a abortion but is forced to have a child against her will denies the womans right to due process.
    so your saying people should not be forced to do things against there will?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I haven't ignored a thing. We were debating a specific point. You don't have to be interested in that, that's cool, you can take things in your own direction, no problem. So you want to talk about slavery, great, start be quoting where SCOTUS equated abortion with slavery and shut down abortion bans on those grounds.

    Oh wait, SCOTUS didn't do that, right, because abortion has nothing whatsoever to do with slavery. Awww so much for that.
    I haven't mentioned the Roe v. Wade decision once in this thread. You're deflecting again. Why can't you refute the argument that forced gestation is a form of slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You truly have no idea who you're talking to or what you're talking about. Seriously.
    Jerry, everyone on this forum knows who and what you are. And you're still doing everything in your power to avoid having an honest discussion of this, except to admit that you're wrong and stop advocating for an immoral and tyrannical political position.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No, I'm not. I'm using them as a springboard to say what i want to say, to put information out there, because the best response to bad speech is more good speech.
    LOL

    So, naturally, your view is the 'good speech' and the other views are 'the bad speech.'

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You have no idea how utterly stupid that is. It makes about as much sense as the idiots who say that gay people have the same rights as straight people, they just have to marry people of the other gender.
    "Rich people don't have the right to sleep under bridges, either, so laws against sleeping under bridges are perfectly fair to the poor."

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    you are forcing someone to do something against their will.
    I'm not forcing anyone to do a damn thing. Nothing said on DebatePolitics.com is of any consequence. We are not congress, we do not make policy, we do not enforce law. If you win a debate, you don't get your way, and if you lose a debate, you don't have someone else's will forced on you.

    It's just words. Calm the **** down.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But that has nothing whatsoever to do with what I'm saying. If you are going to allow women an out of an unwanted pregnancy, you have to also allow men an out. To do anything else is unfair and unequal. Why is this so hard to understand?
    That's not hard to understand at all. You're only speaking from a financial obligation standpoint. It's a hell of alot more complicated than that.

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