View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

    5 4.95%
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The unborn are not a person

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    If that were true then this man would not have been convicted of murder. He would have been convicted of some kind of tampering charge or assault on the mother.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The unborn are not a person

    #fact
    Slaves weren't people.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If that were true then this man would not have been convicted of murder. He would have been convicted of some kind of tampering charge or assault on the mother.
    He was not convicted of murder, and was convicted of other charges, including tampering.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    He wasn't convicted of murder

    He was plead to several charges (ex mail fraud, etc) none of which were murder
    Wise of him to cop to a plea deal, imo. Why all the fus if it's just a "clump of cells"? I clipped my fingernails this morning, send the cops!

    Oh, there must be something different about the ZEF...hmm I wonder what that could be....

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Wise of him to cop to a plea deal, imo. Why all the fus if it's just a "clump of cells"? I clipped my fingernails this morning, send the cops!
    The fuss is because he denied the mother her right to choose. As a pro-choicer, forcing a pregnant woman to abort her child is just as reprehensible as forcing a pregnant woman to have the child.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    But can you accept that a man was just convicted of murder for killing an unborn child?

    You can only "murder" a "person".

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/aborti...s-w-393-a.html
    Jerry...if you're referring to the man who gave his girlfriend drugs to cause a miscarriage...or abortion if you prefer...the conviction WAS NOT MURDER...even though he was charged for a crime that lead to the death of an embryo...under the Unborn Victims Violence Act of 2004.

    Since the language of the act...allows the used of the word "child" in relationship to the provisions of the law...BASED ON A SPECIAL LEGAL DEFINITION...it was created so as not to imply that it in anyway undermined Roe v. Wade...

    The UNBORN VICTIM was an embryo of about 7 weeks old. Technically it was NOT a CHILD. The embryo was considered to be a victim of a crime.

    If the above case isn't the one you're referring to...Never mind...Lo Siento...

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The fuss is because he denied the mother her right to choose.
    If I woke up to find my significant other had clipped my fingernails in my sleep, I don't think I would press criminal charges. I would be a little weirded out, but I don't think I would call the cops.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    As a pro-choicer, forcing a pregnant woman to abort her child is just as reprehensible as forcing a pregnant woman to have the child.
    As a pro-choicer you should be supporting the man's choice to not be a father.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If I woke up to find my significant other had clipped my fingernails in my sleep, I don't think I would press criminal charges.
    You must be proud!

    As a pro-choicer you should be supporting the man's choice to not be a father.
    I support the man's right to have an abortion whenever he becomes pregnant
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If that were true then this man would not have been convicted of murder. He would have been convicted of some kind of tampering charge or assault on the mother.
    He should ALSO have been charged with assault on the woman as he put her life at risk...but that didn't happen, which is a travesty.

    He was charge with tampering of a higher degree ...and mail fraud because he forged a name to get the drug via mail.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There is no responsibility to support the unborn. The responsibility to support begins when the child is born
    That's what I'm talking about.

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