View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

    5 4.95%
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    It takes two to tango. Both parties have the responsibility of making sure that the woman doesn't get pregnant.
    It does, but since it's her body which can be affected, it is primarily her responsibility. That being said, when my boys were teenagers, I cautioned them that they would be wise to use birth control methods, as females are often not reliable and/or honest about it, and I made it pretty clear that if they trusted the girl to do so, they could easily be misled and find themselves in a bad situation.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    From conseption on the ZEF is a human organism, which means its a "person", which means killing it without justification is murder.
    Under the constitution, the govt does not have the power to protect the unborn
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Under the constitution, the govt does not have the power to protect the unborn
    It's my understanding that a so-called "absolute right" trancends local law. It's wrong to rape regardles of what your government says, for example.

    I'm not turning to the government, but I'll entertain your sidebar by pointing out that the government has the power to protect all persons. See Article 1 of the Constitution and the 14th Amendment. That our government chooses not to is simply a human rights violation identical to legalized slavory, in that the government allows you to own another person as property.
    Last edited by Jerry; 09-14-13 at 11:34 PM.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's my understanding that a so-called "absolute right" trancends local law. It's wrong to rape regardles of what your government says, for example.

    I'm not turning to the government, but I'll entertain your sidebar by pointing out that the government has the power to protect all persons. That our government chooses not to is simply a human rights violation identical to legalized slavory, in that the government allows you to own another person as property.
    The unborn are not "persons" and have no rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The unborn are not "persons" and have no rights.
    We were just talking about this in the Feedback and Sugestions forum; people replying while the post is still being edited.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    We were just talking about this in the Feedback and Sugestions forum; people replying while the post is still being edited.
    your edits do not change my response
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You want to care about the children, then do so. Don't try to force others to care about that which they do not need to.
    You are the one trying to force taxpayers to pay for the child. If the father is not responsible, then a lot of times the mother will just collect welfare for herself and the child. So the choice is yours, either the father pays for his child or you let him walk away without any kind of responsibility and we all pay instead.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    your edits do not change my response
    I know. You're still wrong. I don't know what else there is to say about it.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I know. You're still wrong. I don't know what else there is to say about it.
    I accept your surrender
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    I think a better argument is he should be able to opt out of child support.

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