View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

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  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

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  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

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  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Not even then.
    I disagree. If he tells the woman up front that he has no intention of providing for any child that may result from their union, and she goes and has sex with him anyway, he probably shouldn't be held responsible in that situation IMO. .

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    All he has to do is get a vasectomy.

    And dip himself in latex
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    By the same token, all the man has to do is refuse sex until he puts on a condom.
    Sorry boys, the WOMAN is in control.

    While I agree it would be "wise" for a man to do so on his own...when it comes to sexual matters most young men have no wisdom at all. Since the primary physical risk is to the woman; if she does not want a child she can simply say put on a condom...or contnue to insist on no sex until marriage.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Silly rabbit; trix are for kids, and not for debate.

    It is exactly the same. You are denying a male the right to CHOOSE if he wants to keep a baby or not.
    A male has just as much right to have an abortion as a female does. No one, male or female, has the right to interfere with another persons decision to have an abortion



    However, when a woman tells a man who unintentionally got her pregnant that she is going to have that baby, then those men are now denied their right NOT to be tied to her and a baby for the rest of their lives. Sex should not be a "trap."
    No man or woman has the right to not be financially responsible for their child.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Sorry boys, the WOMAN is in control.

    While I agree it would be "wise" for a man to do so on his own...when it comes to sexual matters most young men have no wisdom at all. Since the primar risk is to the woman, if she does not want a child she can simply say put on a condom..or contnue to insist on no sex until marriage.
    Sorry boy, but everyone is in control of their own bodies.

    Boys with no wisdom are just as financially responsible for their children as women with no wisdom
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Sorry boys, the WOMAN is in control.

    While I agree it would be "wise" for a man to do so on his own...when it comes to sexual matters most young men have no wisdom at all. Since the primary physical risk is to the woman; if she does not want a child she can simply say put on a condom...or contnue to insist on no sex until marriage.
    What about if the situation is a man who impregnates a teenage girl, which is often the case.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    All HE has to do is put on a condom. He has just as much if not even MORE control over his putting on a condom than she does. Actually, I don't think a condom really effects sex for a female and can sometimes even feel better with some of the added features they have nowadays,. A lot of times it's men who don't want to wear a condom for sensation purposes.
    All she has to do is remind him, no sex without a condum.

    We are not talking about rape here. In a consentual situation women have the final say. A guy can sniff around all he wants, but a woman must say yes before anything happens down there. The woman has ALL the power. NOTHING can happen down there without her consent in a voluntary sexual encounter.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Besides, pregnancies DO occur with condoms sometimes. Accidental pregnancies happen.
    Which is why women should also use contraception and why abortions are and should remain legal.

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    What about if the situation is a man who impregnates a teenage girl, which is often the case.
    Are we talking statutory rape here? Or is it abuse of authority? If the young lady is of consenting age, the man's age should not matter (as long as he is also of the age of consent.) Why? Simply because it is still her body and she is aware that unprotected sex could lead to pregnancy. If he forces her after she say's no? That's rape.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    All she has to do is remind him, no sex without a condum.
    All he has to do is remember. She is no more responsible than he.

    We are not talking about rape here. In a consentual situation women have the final say. A guy can sniff around all he wants, but a woman must say yes before anything happens down there. The woman has ALL the power. NOTHING can happen down there without her consent in a voluntary sexual encounter.
    Absolutely not. You have no idea of the emotional and other dynamics of all relationships out there. There are plenty of relationships where the woman is not in control but the sex would be considered consensual according to the law.



    Which is why women should also use contraception and why abortions are and should remain legal
    No men do not get a pass for being irresponsible. The woman can no more get pregnant without the man's contribution.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I disagree. If he tells the woman up front that he has no intention of providing for any child that may result from their union, and she goes and has sex with him anyway, he probably shouldn't be held responsible in that situation IMO. .
    I disagree. In that circumstance, he did his share in making a baby. His moral contract is with his baby, not the mother.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Sorry boys, the WOMAN is in control.
    Then why didn't she stop herself from becoming pregnant?

    The problem of unwanted pregnancy is a result of people not being in control.

    While I agree it would be "wise" for a man to do so on his own...when it comes to sexual matters most young men have no wisdom at all. Since the primary physical risk is to the woman; if she does not want a child she can simply say put on a condom...or contnue to insist on no sex until marriage.
    I have to agree.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Sorry boys, the WOMAN is in control.

    While I agree it would be "wise" for a man to do so on his own...when it comes to sexual matters most young men have no wisdom at all. Since the primary physical risk is to the woman; if she does not want a child she can simply say put on a condom...or contnue to insist on no sex until marriage.
    Who knows who you date? Both are in control. Both decide to have sex or there is no sex. (excluding rape).

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