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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, but he ought to be able to be absolved of all legal and financial responsibility for any baby that he doesn't want to have, but he also gives up all parental visitation, etc. If she can vote to have the baby without his consent, he can vote for her to be 100% responsible for it.
    I don't know about elsewhere, but in the state of Texas, there is an Affidavit of Voluntary Relinquishment of Parental Rights, which releases a father from all responsibilities and duties to the child. It's a long process, but if that's the route someone feels is best, it exists.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Should a man have an absolute right to have his baby aborted?


    In the alternative, should he be granted relief from all legal responsibility if it is his clearly stated wish to abort but the woman decides not to?

    Let me preface my remarks with this disclaimer; I am Pro-Choice and I support a woman’s absolute right to choose to have an abortion for several reasons, including the fact it is the woman who must endure the pregnancy to carry the child to term, and then follows the lifelong responsibility to raise and care for any child born.

    The dilemma occurs when the woman unilaterally decides to have the baby, even when the male does not wish to accept that long-term responsibility.

    In a recent news report, a young man was so desperate not to have a child that he tricked his girlfriend into taking a morning after pill. Now I do not support or condone this action, but it does bring up the thesis issue for me…why does the male partner have no say in a decision to keep the baby?

    When a woman makes the unilateral decision to keep the baby this then compels lifelong legal and emotional obligations on the part of the unwilling father. This creates resentment and recriminations in both parties. By attempting to force the man to marry and/or support both her and the child this only serves to create a negative environment for all concerned, especially for any child to grow up in.

    Since we now have a simple method of aborting in the early stages of the first trimester, without needing an invasive surgery, why should the absolute choice to keep the baby reside with the mother? If it does, why can’t the man be legally relieved of further responsibility to both parties?

    I have offered several voting options, please pick and then explain what do you think? I am especially interested in arguments for why the woman has the sole right to keep the child while making the man permanently responsible.




    Any man who doesn't want to be responsible for a baby should avoid engaging in activity that produces babies.

    Pretty simple, eh?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Currently there is birth control method that is 100 percent effective when having consental sex.

    Accidental pregnancies can and do happen.
    Did you omit the word "not?" Because I don't know of any BC methods that are 100% effective other than abstinence, and you say when having consensual sex.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Abstinence.

    Abstinence
    Did you not notice where I said when having concentsual sex?

    I do not feel a married couple should have to give up the marriage bed because they fear a birth control failure.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Did you not notice where I said when having concentsual sex?

    I do not feel a married couple should have to give up the marriage bed because they fear a birth control failure.
    In that case you have manual and oral stimulation that offer sexual pleasure without the possibility of pregnancy.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    In that case you have manual and oral stimulation that offer sexual pleasure without the possibility of pregnancy.
    And toys!

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And toys!
    Autoerotic stimulation, farm animals and woodland creatures?
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    "Viability" is somewhat subjective and is a bit of false line. A fetus is never an appendage, they are a separate but dependent life within the womb.
    Do you even understand what viability means?

    Viaibilty means the abilty to live outside the woman's womb with or without medical help.

    If a pregnant dies a pre viable fetus will not suvive eeven if quickly removed and given the most advanced medical help.
    The pre viable fetus depends completly on the woman's life forces.

    Once a fetus becomes viabile if the woman dies it has a very good chance of surviving if quickly reoved and given an infant CPAP and neo natal unit if needed.

    Once born the infant is a person. Also it no longer completely dependent on the woman. Someone else...a nurse, the father, a grandparent an adoptive parent, a foster parent can feed and take of the infant.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Did you omit the word "not?" Because I don't know of any BC methods that are 100% effective other than abstinence, and you say when having consensual sex.
    Yes...I omitted the word 'not'.
    Once again my dyslexia got the best of me.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    In that case you have manual and oral stimulation that offer sexual pleasure without the possibility of pregnancy.
    Oh thanks...but no thanks...
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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