Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.
Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.
No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.
NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.
I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.
I Don't Know.
Originally Posted by youIf he already had a choice by having sex then it would follow that she also already had a choice by having sex and since as you say they should both be responsible you must therefore be pro-life.Originally Posted by you
But if you believe that a pregnancy is a "unborn baby" then the woman shouldn't get the choice either. Which would be equality! which I could logically see as valid but I could not support.
1. Obviously the men you are "debating" totally believe in being a deadbeat in terms of non-economic parental responsibilities.
2. Obviously they will continue the lie that only men have financial duties for born children.
3. Obviously they don't care about the child one iota.
4. Obviously they want to be able to financially extort the woman to gain power over her - not just for abortion but in every possible way. "Do what I want or I'll abandon you and the child including economically.
You are debating what used to be called male chauvinistic pigs too the extreme degree - arguing that if they can't make a woman do anything and everything they want - they can just abandon their family including their own children. SO extreme that while they have posted dozens to hundreds of messages how abortion is "killing an unborn baby" - if they can't have total power over the woman that is exactly what they want to be able to do - to kill their "unborn baby" (in their view of it) as a retaliation against the woman not being totally submissive in every way.
There is no "debating" such a view and grotesque hypocrisy.
Rather, just point out what they advocate in terms of what people recognize. They furiously want the right to be deadbeat and totally absentee biological fathers - the ultimate "deadbeat dad." All their words don't change the bottom line to their advocacy. There are many, many deadbeat dads and we're "debating" them or wannabe deadbeats.
What do you thin, in general, are a father's ethical responsibility towards his own children? Apparently you think it is only $$$.