View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

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  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

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  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
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Thread: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Can someone help me understand how abortion and child support are equivalent?
    I agree and somewhat agree with Excon here. we are talking about the sex act and not the outcome. The man and the woman agreed to have sex. And sex doesn't mean agreeing to have children. Therefore if a woman can end all responsibility of the sex act at any time (before birth) then the man gets that same choice. Once the woman has made her decision to keep or abort and the man gets his option to abort or take responsibility, then the woman can utilize the information about the man to make the final choice. One of those outcomes is that the woman bears all responsibility or to terminate once she knows what the man will do. after she learns what the man will do, she still has the option to terminate.

    I don't believe it is her responsibility only for the sex act but choice should be extend to both parties. We are not equating abortion to child support. we are equating the decision to abort or not (taking responsibility or not for the woman) to the decision to abort financial support or not (taking responsibility for the man).

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Imagine this scenario

    guy hops into bed with girl

    guy says-are you protected

    Girl lies and says

    I am on the pill

    she gets pregnant

    now tell me why the guy should be on the hook for paternity



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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    What we are seeing is pro-life men militantly demanding a right to use economic extortion against a woman he made pregnant to try to force her to have an abortion or face economic destitution and raising a child in poverty.

    This thread PROVES absolutely that nearly all pro-life men not only do NOT care about "the unborn baby" - but rather they are THE MOST PRO-ABORTION of all for unwanted pregnancies IF it might affect him as a man.

    This thread consists primarily of the FAKE pro-life men demanding a right to force/extort a woman to abortion if he is the man of an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    If he doesnt want a child, he could watch where he sticks it.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What we are seeing is pro-life men militantly demanding a right to use economic extortion against a woman he made pregnant to try to force her to have an abortion or face economic destitution and raising a child in poverty.

    This thread PROVES absolutely that nearly all pro-life men not only do NOT care about "the unborn baby" - but rather they are THE MOST PRO-ABORTION of all for unwanted pregnancies IF it might affect him as a man.

    This thread consists primarily of the FAKE pro-life men demanding a right to force/extort a woman to abortion if he is the man of an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy.
    to the left, it isn't a baby. it is a clump of cells. I have no problem allowing men to release financial responsibility to a clump of cells.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Imagine this scenario

    guy hops into bed with girl

    guy says-are you protected

    Girl lies and says

    I am on the pill

    she gets pregnant

    now tell me why the guy should be on the hook for paternity
    TD...since when does the pill protect against pregnancy 100% why take that chance? But the real deal is...in your scenario...if the guy just jumps in bed with someone that he has to ask if she is protected...why isn't he protecting himself from at least STD's if he not worried about the possibility of pregnancy?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Imagine this scenario

    guy hops into bed with girl

    guy says-are you protected

    Girl lies and says

    I am on the pill

    she gets pregnant

    now tell me why the guy should be on the hook for paternity
    Because he is one of the two biological parents. She is on the hook financially took if the child is born, exactly the same as the man. Read up on it. You are claiming a lie. NO STATE exempts women from child support obligations.

    YOU have not answered why I should have to pay for YOUR kid at a taxpayer. Nor have you explained your right to make a child and then trash that child you made in relation to the child.

    What is clear? You don't give a damn about any child you make EXCEPT to extent it benefits you. Unfortunately, every year, there are more biological fathers with your attitude about his own children.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    That childish.
    No that not childish.



    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    We all know that a child can be result and we all know that we need to protect ourselves. They are both responsible
    If you want to get down to the nitty-gritty of it, actually they are not.
    It is her body. We all know this. She decides what goes in to it, and comes out of it. No one else.

    She allowed herself to be penetrated without protection on it. That is all her fault.


    Secondly, your argument is untenable because we are at the point where she gets to choose whether she has a child or not.
    The man should be given the same effective right to choose.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    to the left, it isn't a baby. it is a clump of cells. I have no problem allowing men to release financial responsibility to a clump of cells.
    Then you are "on the left" - except then your previous message that you oppose abortion IS A BIG LIE - isn't it?

    You are being honest. You are OPPOSED to abortion if ALL duties land on the woman. You SUPPORT abortion if ANY duty might land on the man.

    Nearly all FAKE pro-life men on the forum are in agreement with you. MILITANTLY, VEHEMENTLY pro-abortion IF that let's the man off the hook.

    Deadbeat dad's claiming life is so unfair to them are as despicable as it gets in my opinion of it.

    I HATE CHILD ABUSERS. And men who abandon their children FOR ANY REASON are child abusers in my opinion. They all should be in prison. Sterilized too.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Then you are "on the left" - except then your previous message that you oppose abortion IS A BIG LIE - isn't it?

    You are being honest. You are OPPOSED to abortion if ALL duties land on the woman. You SUPPORT abortion if ANY duty might land on the man.

    Nearly all FAKE pro-life men on the forum are in agreement with you. MILITANTLY, VEHEMENTLY pro-abortion IF that let's the man off the hook.

    Deadbeat dad's claiming life is so unfair to them are as despicable as it gets in my opinion of it.

    I HATE CHILD ABUSERS. And men who abandon their children FOR ANY REASON are child abusers in my opinion. They all should be in prison. Sterilized too.
    I have been pretty clear. I advocate for restrictions once a child is viable. Viability actually can restrict abortion, maybe, even up to the 23 week. And this time gets shorter and shorter with the advancement of medicine which I funded with my tax dollars.

    But that isn't the law of the land. The law of the land says that a woman can abort up until delivery. And in this legal reality, men should be given the choice too.

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