View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

    5 4.95%
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    vasectomy statistics

    IOW, vasectomies don't work when men choose to not follow the doctors instructions or choose not to have the success of their vasectomy documented
    That's how it worked for me. I hated the follow-ups...embarrassing, but necessary. As the saying goes. All else fails...follow the directions.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Mine is 100% and has been since day one. You went to the wrong doc...

    Not only is mine 100%...but it's reversible.

    The procedure was new when I had mine, but the logic of the procedure...flawless.
    OK... Good to know. I should have said that I am getting one... which sounds even better n ow.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    She can get her tubes tied or have an abortion... not sure why this is a difficult concept.



    Nope. He is a father because she has all the power.
    You don't believe that, Bod...come on. Unilateral control...is here to stay until reproductive science develops a bit more, and it will.

    This isn't a simple solution. But really what you want to do is to create the unilateral switcharoo.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Not sure... what do you mean? About what?
    About anything.

    Is it the laws job to make sure that people have the opportunity to make the same decisions that other people get to make?

    Men get to make a decision about vasectomies. Should a women be able to decide if a man will have a vasectomy? Should a mother be able to renounce her responsibility to support her child because the father chose to not have a vasectomy, thereby making him fully responsible for supporting the child?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    She can get her tubes tied or have an abortion... not sure why this is a difficult concept.[
    She can't have vasectomy.


    Nope. He is a father because she has all the power.
    She doesn't have the power to have a vasectomy.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    That's how it worked for me. I hated the follow-ups...embarrassing, but necessary. As the saying goes. All else fails...follow the directions.
    IOW, vasectomies *are* a fail-safe form of birth control, if the man chooses to follow the doctors orders

    So much for your "women have all the power" nonsense
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You don't believe that, Bod...come on. Unilateral control...is here to stay until reproductive science develops a bit more, and it will.

    This isn't a simple solution. But really what you want to do is to create the unilateral switcharoo.
    They have to say that in order to support their beliefs. 99 times out of 100, beliefs trump fact
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    OK... Good to know. I should have said that I am getting one... which sounds even better n ow.
    It's simple, they remove tissue from inside your scrotum...and close off the upper tube. Then it's lightly looped. The lower portion is left to roam free as a bird. The old method they removed about an inch or more of tube...tied the top very tightly. But sometime...they don't tie the upper enough...and sperm can make its way through the tube. Not when it's been completely covered and the scrotum tissue actually will fuse and seal off the upper part.

    No biggie.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They have to say that in order to support their beliefs. 99 times out of 100, beliefs trump fact
    Well, the reality is...there is no way to make it an equal deal. Not yet, some day, but not today. Life just isn't fair. Gawd, I know that is hard to hear. But it'll have to do for now.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    This situation...as it stand...is substantive due process jurisprudence (theory or a philosophical element of due process), which means that there are rights which involve a degree of "third-party harm", that is, the chance that someone or something else may suffer by exercise of the right.

    It is unavoidable...

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