View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If the father didn't stick it to the mother, she wouldn't be a mother
    Nope. WRONG. She is a mother because she chose to not use her Constitutional right to have use birth control (abortion).
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    But you chose that. You weren't expected and pressured by society to choose that path. There is some pressure, yes, but men aren't expected to conform to that role nearly the way women are. Men aren't told every single day of their lives that they are supposed to be fathers and that this is the most important thing for them to do. That is the big difference. You had a choice. A real choice, between two realistic alternatives. Often, a woman doesn't have that.
    Having daughters, I didn't realize that they were being told every day of their lives that they were being groomed to be mothers. As a single father I have more responsibilty than their mother... I didn't choose that. It is a flawed argument.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    a vasectomy... which I have, is not 100% Care to step up to the plate again?
    And you have the choice to get a vasectomy, but a woman does not

    Does that mean some woman should get to decide whether or not you get a vasectomy?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nope. WRONG. She is a mother because she chose to not use her Constitutional right to have use birth control (abortion).
    And he is a father because he chose not to use his constitutional right to not have sex.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    a vasectomy... which I have, is not 100% Care to step up to the plate again?
    Mine is 100% and has been since day one. You went to the wrong doc...

    Not only is mine 100%...but it's reversible.

    The procedure was new when I had mine, but the logic of the procedure...flawless.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Mine is 100% and has been since day one. You went to the wrong doc...

    Not only is mine 100%...but it's reversible.

    The procedure was new when I had mine, but the logic of the procedure...flawless.

    Although the women were not specifically asked, two of them reported that their husband did not follow the urologist's instructions regarding abstinence or use of back-up contraception. A common recommendation is to have semen analysis performed three months after vasectomy or after 20 ejaculations and to avoid intercourse or use another birth control method until no sperm has been documented.
    vasectomy statistics

    IOW, vasectomies don't work when men choose to not follow the doctors instructions or choose not to have the success of their vasectomy documented
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Thanks for the 23 chromosomes hun! Now let's see what I do with "my" baby that is growing on your belly!
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Should the law ensure that everyone gets to make the same choices?
    Not sure... what do you mean? About what?
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    The Myths and Realities of a Vasectomy - NYTimes.com

    Q: Do vasectomies ever fail?A: Very rarely. Failure occurs when sperm find a new way to enter the vas and make their way into the ejaculate, a process called recanalization. In our clinic, we may have 1 failure in 4,500 vasectomies. Vasectomies can also fail when men donít wait long enough to be sure all the sperm cells are gone before having sex without another form of contraception.
    Q: How long does it take to be sure all the old sperm are gone?
    A: I tell patients it takes 15 ejaculations or six weeks, whichever comes first. In fact, we advise men to come in for semen analysis, and not to engage in sex without a contraceptive until we see no live sperm. Unfortunately, only about 75 percent of men follow through and do semen samples, according to the latest surveys. Given how low the compliance is, Iím surprised the failure rate isnít higher.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And you have the choice to get a vasectomy, but a woman does not

    Does that mean some woman should get to decide whether or not you get a vasectomy?
    She can get her tubes tied or have an abortion... not sure why this is a difficult concept.

    And he is a father because he chose not to use his constitutional right to not have sex.
    Nope. He is a father because she has all the power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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