View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You really oversimplify the issue.
    No, I really don't. It is a simple issue. Have sex, protect yourself, or take the chance on getting pregnant. This is junior high school stuff here, not rocket science.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why should the man be forced to pay for 18 years for a child he neither wanted, nor agreed to. Consenting to sex is not the same as consenting to reproduction.
    Because someone has to pay and there is no reason it should be me. Or are you advocating the government and/or the man killing the child upon birth?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I would be very curious to find out how many people here supporting a mans right to leave the decision to the woman and allow themselves to "opt out" also oppose abortion. If you allow yourself to walk away but you oppose abortion then you are walking away from a responsibility you are imposing on her.
    I oppose abortion in principle and want it restricted but it is legal without limits federally. And as long as it is legal without restrictions, men should have the option to abort their financial responsibility which would accomplish the equivalent to a woman aborting the physical pregnancy.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You are assuming that the ONLY way a woman can become pregnant is if she is irresponsible. You are wrong here.
    There are exceptions to every rule, but the rule is, aside from rape and/or incest with a young girl, prevention is pretty easy, and is widely available to the general public.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    anonymous polls suck

    I believe if there is a pregnancy, and the man offers to pay for the abortion, the woman can reject the offer but he is then relieved of any financial duties. There should be strict equality in this area.
    That is as false as it gets. The woman has as much "financial responsibility" as the man after birth.

    Explain to me why I should have to pay for THEIR child - since that is your claim UNLESS you advocate killing the child if abandoned by both. Why do you claim I should have to pay for their child? Explain that to me.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    I oppose abortion in principle and want it restricted but it is legal without limits federally. And as long as it is legal without restrictions, men should have the option to abort their financial responsibility which would accomplish the equivalent to a woman aborting the physical pregnancy.

    Do you then advocate letting the child die? Throw it in the trash? Obviously you do not care one iota about the child in your message. None. Victimize the child upon birth is just A-OK with you 100%.

    Virtually no so-called pro-life men give a damn about the child. That is the BIG LIE of the pro-life advocacy. It is NOT about the child. It is about wanting power over women. The child? Totally irrelevant and we see that in this thread and basically every thread about the FAKE "pro life men" claiming they care about "the baby." They don't give a **** about "the baby" whatsoever.

    That is what your message REALLY says. It's just a power trip contest between the man and the woman to you by your message.
    Last edited by joko104; 09-14-13 at 12:32 AM.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That is as false as it gets. The woman has as much "financial responsibility" as the man after birth.

    Explain to me why I should have to pay for THEIR child - since that is your claim UNLESS you advocate killing the child if abandoned by both. Why do you claim I should have to pay for their child? Explain that to me.
    As a republican, this is a silly argument. You are not paying for the child. You are paying taxes. Taxes you will need to pay even if any single pregnancy doesn't results in a child. Child insurance coverage, child education, child WIC, child welfare will exist even if any singular pregnancy exists or not.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, I really don't. It is a simple issue. Have sex, protect yourself, or take the chance on getting pregnant. This is junior high school stuff here, not rocket science.
    You don't need to be condescending. But no, it is not that simple and all the responsibility should not be placed on the women.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Wow, over half the members of the forum so far essential say "LET THE BABY DIE AFTER BIRTH FOR ALL WE CARE."

    In other ways, it does seem clear a majority of Americans basically despise children in general. Gratuitously will claim otherwise, but really don't give a damn about children.

    Men who want the right to abandon their children. I guess that shouldn't surprise anyone give how many do.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    There are exceptions to every rule, but the rule is, aside from rape and/or incest with a young girl, prevention is pretty easy, and is widely available to the general public.
    You keep making the same statement over and over again.
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