View Poll Results: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to abort his baby?

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  • Yes, but only during the first 20 weeks, same as a woman.

    3 2.97%
  • Yes, but only during the initial period when a non-invasive technique works.

    0 0%
  • No, but he should have the right to be legally relieved of all responsibility.

    50 49.50%
  • NO! Only the woman has this right and he remains responsible.

    21 20.79%
  • I oppose all abortion, so neither have the right.

    22 21.78%
  • I Don't Know.

    5 4.95%
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    So are you saying then that after the child is born she can deny him any and all contact and parental rights of the child, whether he likes it or not and whether he is willing to pay or not? Do you then extend her total-control to0 after the child is born and at any time thereafter can tell the father to kiss-off and never come around her and the child again?

    After the child is born, yes. After the child is claimed by him, no. I do not consider DNA to be morally relevant; he does not become a father until she offers him the child and he accepts. His willingness to pay child support does not entitle him to claim the child against her will, as he did not produce the child.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the child was created as a result of a decision they BOTH made..... why should only one of them get a choice?
    For the same reason some people get the choice of what color their new Porsche should be, and others do not.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Exactly. And the current child support paradigm does not do this.
    Both parents are required to support their children

    The law treats both men and women equally
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Both parents are required to support their children

    The law treats both men and women equally
    nope. a woman doesn't support her children, the govt gives her a welfare check and foodstamps. a man doesn't support his children, the govt puts him in jail.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    nope. a woman doesn't support her children, the govt gives her a welfare check and foodstamps. a man doesn't support his children, the govt puts him in jail.
    A woman is required to support her children. If she doesn't, the govt puts her in jail
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    A woman is required to support her children. If she doesn't, the govt puts her in jail
    yeah right. I've been around and worked with DHR long enough to know that if a woman doesn't support her children, the worst that happens to her is DHR takes her kids and puts them in foster care. meanwhile, she still gets to collect her welfare check and food stamps, even though she is no longer providing for the kids.
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Both parents are required to support their children
    A woman's children are the children she chooses to have. A man's children are the children a woman has chosen to have for him.

    How is that equal?

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    A woman's children are the children she chooses to have. A man's children are the children a woman has chosen to have for him.

    How is that equal?
    Men have an equal choice and opportunity to not have children
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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Men have an equal choice and opportunity to not have children
    They clearly do not. This is a blatant misrepresentation of the facts.

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    Re: Should a Man have an Absolute Right to Choose to Abort His Baby?

    Let me ask a question, then, for all you people who argue a man should be responsible for the children he created: if a father and a mother are getting divorced, and the issue of paternity comes up, should the man be exempted from child support for children that a DNA tests concludes are not related to him by blood? Let's say he's been raising them for years and the issue of paternity never came up before the divorce.

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